Talk:Cory Lidle/Archive 3

Controversy section

I removed it. Undue weight was being given to a minor spat. Elliskev 23:07, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree with the removal.--Kester Teague 23:07, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

The particular spat with the Phillies just after a trade was minor. The broader controversy about his having been a replacement player in 1995 was somewhat more significant and may be worth mentioning; cf., for example, Rick Reed. But this isn't the time to worry about it. Newyorkbrad 23:23, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Minor?? it was talked about for weeks on sports radio, it should be put back. Only reason it was removed is because he died and people only want to speak good of the dead, how about we speak the truth insteadKrawhitham 07:08, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

The reason it was removed is specified above. At the time, the section accounted for about three-fourths one-third of the article. It was undue weight. Elliskev 13:08, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

de

de:Cory Lidle can someone add this, thanks --129.217.129.133 23:20, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Done. Hu 23:29, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Aircraft Picture

The aircraft in the picture is a Cessna 172, not a Cirrus SR20. 64.180.214.139 01:07, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

semi-protection

I removed the semi-protection notice because it isn't semi-protected.-67.121.125.130 01:50, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

wtf

the guy is dead, why does the article assume he isnt?!

Because everyone on here is spineless and gunshy. MonkBirdDuke 02:07, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Just for reference, ESPN has reported that the family has been notified by authorities, and Cory Lidle's brother was on Larry King Live. His wallet was found on a 4th floor ledge, and his body has been recovered. This is no longer speculation. He was on his way home to California, and was scheduled to stop in Tennessee tonight.Sjt81 03:02, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

there is an article about crash

see October 11, 2006 New York City plane crash. Most of the topics on this page should be discussed there. Pacman 16:28, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Lidle's constant reassignments.....

Anyone know the reason why Lidle was shipped around from team to team?....he averaged more than one team per year. Was he disagreeable? Or was it his performance?

Not sure, although he was known to have a mercurial temperment and his being a replacement player in 1994 may not have made him the most popular person around the clubhouse. JYolkowski // talk 02:36, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Lidle was one of those serviceable, back of the starting rotation kind of pitchers. Guys like that usually don't get long-term contracts and often play for many teams over the course of their careers. Lidle did OK for himself, though, his career won-loss record was a very respectable 82-72. Outtaherephils 02:43, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

He was never "the" guy for a team. He was a Pitcher that had value, teams would pick him up, but he wasn't the type of guy you give a 5 year deal too.Sjt81 03:02, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Eh, it happens in modern baseball even to the best liked guys. It would actually just be unusual if he'd just been with one team for his entire career. --Ed Word 16:31, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

The image was created the plane hitted 19th floor on the bourder of Manhattan and Queens in the main New agencies and only later it was changed into 40th (the first image was huge, coreection -neglibble). We understand, what could mean 19th after 11 09 2001

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What does it mean? -BASEBALL; In Lidle, Yanks Have Extra Pitcher and Backup Pilot

• Please Note: Archive articles do not include photos, charts or graphics. More information. September 8, 2006, Friday

By TYLER KEPNER (NYT); Sports Desk Late Edition - Final, Section D, Page 5, Column 1, 989 words DISPLAYING ABSTRACT - When the Yankees fly, the pilots are not only in the cockpit. There is another pilot in the main cabin, where the players sit. He is probably studying his hand-held Global Positioning System receiver, tracking the weather and noting the plane's precise speed and altitude. He is Cory Lidle, ...

Death Section.

I took that block of information that seemed to be accidentally placed in the "See Also" section into the "Death" section. This section will probably need some cleaning up and some more re-organization to reduce redundancy and improve clarity. Thanks. --joeinthebox 18:57, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

The Flight Instructor

The article has conflicting spellings of the name of the Flight instructor. Is he Tyler Stanger or Tyler Stranger? Jamesino 22:52, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Stanger is how ESPN is pronouncing itSjt81 23:22, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

I think we should unify the article so that there is only one spelling of his name instead of two. Jamesino 23:25, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

agreed, Stanger is used in the main article on the Crash, and thus I replaced all instances of "Stranger" with "Stanger"Sjt81 23:34, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Stanger is also used by NY Times and the LA Times. --joeinthebox 07:33, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Life Insurance

What does everyone else think about the inclusion of information from the following news article into either this article or the actual event's article? I am pretty neutral on it, but I came across the article and thought I'd put it up for debate. [1] Stoneice02 03:59, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

• Since it's apparently being written about by the AP I don't see why we couldn't mention it. But should we? Since it's just speculation right now (if he was the pilot, his family might not get the benefit), I say we wait until more is known. Who really wants to read an article that's all speculation, even if it's well-referenced speculation? --Ed Word 14:02, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Who Exactly Was the Flight Instructor?

There is a difference between the account of the crash on this page and the Wikinews article which names the flight instructor as Robert Paulson. Is Wikinews wrong or is it Wikipedia?

I think someone was having a little fun with the Wikipedia page. Robert Paulson is a fictional character in the film Fight Club. I changed it back to what all the news reports are still stating: Tyler Stanger.--71.156.62.61 17:56, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Protection

I would like to make a motion to having this page granted protection from random, non-registered editing untill further notice. Basbalfrk 19:05, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

A-Rod accident

I edited someone else's entry about yesterday's A-Rod plane accident to remove some extraneous POV material - but I question whether this paragraph should be in the article at all. Yes, it is an eerie coincidence but is it really appropriate for a page about Cory Lidle? Tvoz 04:14, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

• The news media seem to be playing up the coincidental connection. Wahkeenah 04:50, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, that's why I didn't remove it - but still it seems kind of inappropriate on a page about Lidle - it should be about him, his career, and of course his death, not conspiracy theories and screwball ideas about upsidedown dates. I suppose the A-rod story isn't quite that so I left it up, but did want to get the sense of others here. No big deal either way. Tvoz 05:43, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Conspiracy theory? That would be a major stretch, but there's no accounting for paranoia. It's a strange coincidence that, at least for the moment, deserves a mention, but should be downplayed as just that and nothing more, given the lack of any evidence to the contrary. The media, of course, like to make connections. If it weren't for the Lidle story, the A-Rod story would come and go much more quickly, as there were no casualties. Wahkeenah 07:17, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

I took it out. Revert if you must, but it's an unrelated superstitious implication that has no place in an encyclopedia. 155.212.44.58 14:33, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Arthur Rhodes

Is there any quote from Arthur Rhodes after Cory Lidle passed away. Keep in mind Arthur Rhodes is the individual who is quoted as calling Cory Lidle a 'scab' and a 'replacement player.

Pterodactyl

Whoever replaced "airplane" with Pterodactyl is an asshole. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.86.122.109 (talk) 02:03, 13 January 2007 (UTC).

Robert Fulton not inventor of steamboat

In the personal life section, the article mentions that Lidle's middle name was in honor of Robert Fulton, the inventor of the steamboat. Fulton did not invent the steamboat, but did launch the Clermont in 1807. The steamboat was invented 21 years earlier by John Fitch in Warminster Township, Pennsylvania in 1786. Bill S. (talk) 07:07, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

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The 50 story high rise building that Yankee pitcher Cory Lidle crashed into is called the BelAir. Many of BelAir's floors are reserved for patients and guests of patients who receive surgical treatment at the famed Hospital for Special Surgery (HSS) across the street. In fact, Cory Lidle received reconstructive surgery known as ulnar collateral ligament (UCL) reconstruction (also known as "Tommy John's surgery"). The HSS specializes in sports medicine, and is one of two places that pioneered this surgery. Its surgeons, notably world renowned orthopedic specialist, Dr. David Altchek, have successfully operated on many top-rated pitchers, restoring them to the baseball diamond. We hope that HSS patients being operated on and post-operative patients recovering did not suffer; orthopedic surgery can be highly painful and interruptions in complex, one-chance surgeries, or the post-op recovery can permanently destroy a patient's chances for proper use of a limb. All HSS business was interrupted. We hope that Cory Lidle was not gambling with airspace and private pilot regulations on that plane: most general aviation pilots in and around the NYC area are on their best behavior, fully respecting the spirit of air-space restrictions regarding New York City, especially after 9/11. If a VFR pilot is anywhere near the FDR Drive, he is already "too close". Period. We ALL know that. For genuine emergencies, emergency landing in the East River is the drill, and any pilot out of TEB would know that. Nontheless, the FAA gives Disneyland more protection than a national treasure (intellectual property in progress) such as the Hospital for Special Surgery. References: Belair: http://www.hss.edu/About/Patient-Information/Patient-Amenities/ Tommy John Surgery: http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060730/SPORTS01/60730004/1002 Shoulder and Sports Medicine Service, Hospital for Special Surgery, New York, New York http://ajs.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/0363546506290988v1 NYC Airspace rule conflicts: http://www.gothamgazette.com/article//20030324/200/322 "Meanwhile, even as small planes continued to fly freely over New York, the FAA issued rules preventing aircraft from flying below 3,000 feet within three miles of Disneyland in California and Disney World in Florida, calling them "potential targets of great symbolic value."

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