Talk:Combatants of the war in Donbas

Girkin's admission

“ In separate interviews given to Maksim Kalashikov in 2020, Igor Girkin and Pavel Gubarev stated that the LDPR armed forces are playing a role of "cover" for the regular armed forceds of Russian Federation, who are keeping the territories under Russian control. ”

There is an issue with the references here. The Kharkiv Human Rights Protection Group article does not say anything about the LDNR forces being a cover. The second reference is to a youtube video by Denis Kazanskyi whose reliability is not obvious. The original source for that is Strelkov/Girkin's 2020 interview (0:50 - 1:09 in Kazanskyi's video) in which he says "Корпуса народной милиции ... играют роль завесы, то есть прикрытия, за которой они должны продержаться сколько-то времени пока за их спиной не развернутся - если они развернутся настоящие силы." The literal translation would be something like "The people's militia [of DNR&LNR] play the role of a screen, that is, a cover, behind which they should hold their positions until the deployment of real forces [that is, Russia's]." If you feel it doesn't quite make sense - are the LDNR forces a screen themselves or should they defend it - you are right and it also doesn't quite make sense in Russian.

So Girkin is making a statement that the LDNR forces would not hold on their own against the Ukrainian army and their only hope is to be able to hold their positions until the Russian army arrives. It's not clear what period he's talking about but the interview is from November 2020 and he's talking in present tense. This is quite different from Girkin "admitting" anything about the role of the Russian forces in the conflict in general. I think we can use Girkin's words verbatim and add interpretations made by reliable sources. Alaexis_¿question? 12:14, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

References

No table?

How come this article doesn't have a table like similar articles for other wars such as;

• Combatants of the Iraq War
• Belligerents in the Syrian civil war
• List of armed groups in the Syrian civil war spillover in Lebanon
• List of armed groups in the War in Iraq (2013–2017)
• List of armed groups in the Second Libyan Civil War
• List of armed groups in the Yemeni Civil War

Charles Essie (talk) 22:24, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

Requested move 23 September 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:36, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

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• Combatants of the war in Donbas → Combatants of the war in Donbas (2014–2022)
• Civil volunteer movement helping Ukrainian forces in the war in Donbas → Civil volunteer movement helping Ukrainian forces in the war in Donbas (2014–2022)
• International reactions to the war in Donbas → International reactions to the war in Donbas (2014–2022)
• Women in the war in Donbas → Women in the war in Donbas (2014–2022)
• Humanitarian situation during the war in Donbas → Humanitarian situation during the war in Donbas (2014–2022)
• Timeline of the war in Donbas → Timeline of the war in Donbas (2014–2022)

The title of the main article is War in Donbas (2014–2022) also to distinguish it from other wars that took place in Donbas. Parham wiki (talk) 17:01, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Support. I’d support a speedy close and move, as the changes conform to WP:CONSUB.  —Michael Z. 23:22, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Support. Mhorg (talk) 20:50, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.