Talk:Chess World Cup 2019
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List of qualifiers
editIn the European championship 2018 David Anton Guijarro and Mircea Parligras are perfectly tied in all tiebreakers for the last World Cup spot (23rd) and the organisers stated that they will do their best to allow both the players to make it to World Cup. Therefore it's not that Anton Guijarro qualified and Parligras missed out.
As to the Women's World Champion spot, to date it's always been the winner of the KO championship to qualify for the World Cup, therefore very likely the winner of the upcoming 2018 Women's knockout WC will qualify for this. Ju Wenjun will be readded to the list if she wins the WWC in Khanty-Manyisk in November 2018.
Also I think it's better to list the qualifiers in the priority order for now (WC, last WC semifinalists, world junior champion etc.; take a look at FIDE Handbook) and sort them by rating only in August October 2019, so there is no need to update and resort them every single month for a whole more than one year. I think this is also necessary right now because of Anton Guijarro/Parligras tie at the 2018 Euro Individual. Sophia91 (talk) 00:05, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
- I noticed a mistake: Emilio Cordova qualified through the American Continental 2018, not Sandro Mareco. Sophia91 (talk) 00:05, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
- Now it's official that both Anton Guijarro and Parligras both qualified, so there's not point listing them with dash. It's 24 players from EICC 2018 and 22 players from 2019[1] --Ja Kostya (talk) 23:50, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- Actually, this "sorted by priority" doesn't make sense to me, since no "priority" is mentioned in the regulations, and of course it is totally wrong to claim that e. g. European players have priority over Asians. All the players listed have equal priority - they have qualified, and in case of withdrawals they will be replaced from events they have qualified from. Also, now the sorting does not follow any particular order. So I just added a couple of sentences describing qualification paths, which is really what the source describes - hope that works. --Ja Kostya (talk) 23:46, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- There is a order of priority and it's followed by the list. The 2019 regulations don't clearly mention it, but the previous editions regulations do. It's not about a nationality over others, "order of priority" means: 1. the world champion, 2. previous World Cup semifinalists 3. Women's World Champion 4. world junior champions 5. qualifiers from zonal and continental championships 6. rating list and so on. Those who qualified through the first four paths are not counted for qualification purpose in the continental and zonal events: this is exactly what "priority" means; if a world junior champion wants to play in the continental championship and makes the cut, his spot is taken by the next in line in the continental championship (and not the world junor championship). From previous editions, you can see that it's not always true that in case of renounce a player is replaced from events they have qualified from. For example, in 2017 the women's world champion declined the invitation, but she wasn't replaced by the runner-up, her spot passed to the rating list. Sophia91 (talk) 00:16, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
The article [2] says that there will be only 4 qualifiers from the American Continental championship. Also I note that the ACP tour qualifier listed (Adhiban) was the 2018 ACP qualifier, which raises the question of whether there will be a 2019 ACP tour qualifier. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.66.79.226 (talk) 02:15, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
2 identically seeded players
editThere's no point in 2 identical seeded players. Why is it so on the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.27.70.114 (talk) 20:29, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
- The answer is just above your comment....I specifically wrote it in advance to prevent this type of questions, but apparently people nowadays are not able to read, even if it's right under their nose...Sophia91 (talk) 14:25, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
Seeding by qualification
editHi. 2 questions on the seeding of the players: 1. Should 'The participants will be seeded by their FIDE rating of October 2019' be on the article before the the ratings on the list? 2. Does that mean the players during this time will be seeded by method of qualification according to this article? 211.27.126.189 (talk) 22:34, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
- When this article was created (right after the end of the previous World Cup, way too soon!) it was a mere copy-paste of the World Cup 2017 article. It originally said "The participants are seeded by their FIDE rating of August 2019", the dates were not known 2 years in advance obviously, and the creator just replaced "August 2017" with "August 2019". As I explained above, listing the qualifiers in the priority order (WC, last World Cup semifinalists, Women's WC and so on) is better and more logical (FIDE publish the list of qualifiers in order of priority after all) than listing them by rating, which would require a monthly update.Sophia91 (talk) 22:31, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
Nordic Chess Championship
editWhy does it say "Nordic Chess Championship (N)"? What's meant by the "N"? N players will qualify from the Nordic Chess Championship? Where can information be found about this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gottfridsberg (talk • contribs) 14:03, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- In fact, there's no such qualifying event in the regulations. All the European spots are distributed through EICC. AFAIK, some of these events were patroned by the previous FIDE president and their winners were guaranteed a spot via FIDE wild-card. Whether the new president will follow the suit is unclear at the moment, anyway, these spots should go under FIDE president wild card path. --Ja Kostya (talk) 23:42, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- Note that this article was a mere copy-paste of the 2017 event when it was created. In the last World Cup, 45 qualified from EICC (23+22) and the 46th European spot was indeed from the Nordic zonal ("N" put next to the qualifier just stands for this event), as you can check from the list of qualifiers to the 2017 edition, and it wasn't mentioned either in the regulations. Actually the FIDE regulations don't state at all that the European spots should be distributed through EICC. This year, because of the tie in 2018 that led to a 24+22 distribution, of course all 46 spots comes from EICC. Sophia91 (talk) 04:29, 31 March 2019 (UTC)