Talk:Carmella (wrestler)

Alma mater

I have twice reverted an IP changing her alma mater in the infobox from the University of Massachusetts Dartmouth to the University of Rhode Island. What sources I can find online agree with what is in the text of the article: she initially attended URI but transferred to UMass and graduated from there. I'm unable to check the source cited a sentence or two later to see whether it covers this, because it appears to be a video (or some content that my adblocker is preventing from loading). It's possible, however, that the other online sources are citogenesis based on our article; can anyone confirm where she graduated from? Yngvadottir (talk) 17:28, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

According to her old Laker Girls profile, she went to Massachusetts Dartmouth, majored in marketing. (Web Archive link) MissRoseQuartz (talk) 01:13, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

Carmella IS a 2 time Money In The Bank ladder match winner

Stop changing this and trying to act like the first one never happened. She won the first AND second womens MITB ladder matches. The first one was NOT revoked from the history books and saying so is simply wrong.

Carmella: "I believe I am the first ever 2 time winner of the Money In The Bank ladder match..." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69qlQ_kZiGo

ESPN: "Carmella strikes again with second win in women's Money in the Bank match" http://www.espn.com/wwe/story/_/id/19754664/wwe-carmella-strikes-again-second-win-women-money-bank-match

WrestlingInc: "Carmella won the second women's Money In the Bank Ladder Match" http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2017/0627/627529/who-won-the-second-women-money-in-the-bank-ladder-match-on/

72.161.87.135 (talk) 21:49, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Got directed to this off PlyrStar93's talk page. As far as I can see, per Carmella_(wrestler)#SmackDown_.282016.E2.80.93present.29 and the linked references she only "won twice" at the one same competition. She was stripped of the first win, went at it again, and got it successfully. As the first was discounted, I agree with the alternate IP's point of view that she only officially won the competition once. — IVORK _Discuss 01:04, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Thats not true though. Her first when was "not" discounted. She won the match, but because of circumstances the briefcase was taken away, her win was NOT. The same when champions have their title stripped away. The championship reign is still counted and if they win it again it counts as 2. Just to give an example. Kurt Angle won the inaugural TNA World title, but was stripped of it due to controversy, then he preceded to win it again. That counts as 2 reigns. WWE then had a 2nd MITB match which she also won.

As it it extremely obvious, she has won 2 separate MITB matches. It was not the same match, it was 2 separate matches. In her first win, only the "briefcase" was stripped, not the win as she violated no rules as it was no DQ. However, they had a 2nd match which she won and won the briefcase. That is 2 completely separate wins at 2 completely separate events. It would be different if they restarted the match right after she won and then she still won. That would obviously be her winning the same exact match. But that is not what happened. She clearly won 2 separate MITB matches and she is clearly stated to be a 2 time MITB winner as per my sources 72.161.87.135 (talk) 05:00, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Yes, however by stating "issuing a rematch between all five women for the following week", this makes the difference. It is a rematch for the same event, not the next competition. I've added a semi-protected edit request to get an outside opinion. I'm not the most well versed in the wrestling world — IVORK _Discuss 05:37, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. I can see one is already being established. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 05:41, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

No... (Facepalm) that is not what a rematch means. I know you said you said you arent well versed in pro wrestling, but that is definetly not what a rematch implies. A rematch is just a rematch, not a redo.

For example, when a champion loses their title, they get a rematch. If they win it back, that counts as 2 reigns, not 1 as it was a new match, not a redo match. I'll give an example of this; Wade Barrett lost his IC Championship to The Miz at WrestleMania 29. Barrett was issued a rematch the next night on RAW and won the title back. This counts as 2 separate reigns with the IC title. The same thing applies to Carmella, who again was actually referred to multiple times as a 2 time MITB winner (On SmackDown Live, Talking Smack, etc), which makes this even more confusing as to why no one accepts this fact. 72.161.87.135 (talk) 04:47, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

Another thing I'd like to add is that the fact that had Carmella won the inagural Womens MITB Match, but failed to win the 2nd, she would still be considered a former MITB winner and whoever did win would be considered the 2nd. 72.161.87.135 (talk) 04:48, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

Van Dale or Van Damme?

Some IP editor thinks that the last name for Leah and her father is Van Damme, rather than Van Dale, all because of an Instagram page the editor didn't mention. Personally, the WWE record already mentioned is more likely to be correct, and it says "Van Dale". Any thoughts on the matter? Regards, User:TheDragonFire300. (Contact me | Contributions). This message was left at 10:59, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

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