Talk:CT Transit

Acquisition in 1976

I am concerned about the phrase "acquired by the state in 1976 from The Connecticut (Railway and Lighting) Company when that company entered bankruptcy." As far as I know, Connecticut Company and Connecticut Railway and Lighting were two different companies, ConnCo operating in New Haven, Hartford, and Stamford, CR&L in Bridgeport and Waterbury (and possibly some other cities). -- BRG 14:42, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

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New logo as of April 2015

As part of the CTfastrak rebrand, CTtransit has a new logo that they will be putting on the local and exoress buses in Connecticut soon, and said logo is at the top of their home page site. Is it legal under Fair Use or Creative Commons or anything else to use the logo on the Wiki page right now and replace the old logo currently shown? LaPorting4Duty 22:34, 4 April 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by LaPorting4Duty (talk • contribs)

CTtransit logo.

As long as no attempts to make money are being made, then it is legal to use it. Otherwise, there would be thousands of lawsuits against individuals who write Wikipedia articles about any company. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Newflyer504 (talk • contribs) 07:18, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Requested move 15 August 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. per discussion consensus and titling conventions. Ease of parsing and use is the primary concern here per COMMONNAME, but there is also the question of consistency, which multiple (but not all) discussion participants found convincing. It's 4-1 for CT Transit and 3-2 for CT Fastrak, so for the sake of consistency, I'm closing both as moved. (non-admin closure) — Shibbolethink ^{(♔ ♕)} 11:38, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

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• CTtransit → CT Transit
• CTfastrak → CT Fastrak

– Following my successful move request at Talk:CT Rail#Requested move 26 July 2021, I would to propose the same here to make all the CTDOT transit brands aligned by name. JE98 (talk) 11:37, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

• @Trainsandotherthings, Anthony Appleyard, BarrelProof, 力, Andrewa, and Trainsandotherthings: I would like to invite you all to comment on this request. JE98 (talk) 16:06, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
• I'm afraid I would have to oppose these proposed moves. There was a clear readability and parsing issue with the name CTrail (it reads like C Trail) but in my opinion the same can not be said for these two names. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 16:10, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

Also, thank you for the ping. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 00:33, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

• Support the first one: In a quick look, I found two independent sources cited in the CTtransit article, and both of them use "CT Transit". I also found quite a few other news sources in a web search that use that too. For the other subject, I found very little. The sources cited in the article use "CTfastrak". The fact that CT Fastrak is a red link may be a clue that it is seldom used. The logo of CTfastrak also does not contain a space like the others do. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 17:42, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
• Support for the same reasons as CT Rail. Pure stylisation. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:56, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
• Support for consistency. If we're viewing these as stylations, we shouldn't use them for any of the state of Connecticut's transit systems. User:力 (power~enwiki, π, ν) 23:19, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Footnote: I think it was actually 3–1 rather than 3–2 for CT Fastrak. My comment was not intended as an objection. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 19:54, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Status of CT transit division articles

CTtransit has 8 divisions, excluding directly-operated services like Fastrak and Dash.

The articles for the divisions at present treat them almost as though they were separate companies, and their article sizes are near to that of CTtransit itself. (Compare 9,144 bytes for the Waterbury division to 13,413 for the main article) In the case of the Hartford Division, that article actually dwarfs CTtransit's at 29,236 bytes.

So, here's where I get to the point of discussion, what should the purpose of the CTtransit division articles be?

At present they're quite a mess, with some like the New Haven Division being (ostensibly) about the administrative division of CTtransit while the Waterbury division's is just an article about the Northeast Transportation Company. Now, it is true that many of the divisions were separate companies at some point, like the New Britain Division, most of which was the New Britain Transportation Company.

Right now these articles, with the exception of Waterbury, give all of the route information for every route under the Divisions' management. If the standard approach is to be to have each division detail the routes present, shouldn't the current Northeast Transportation Company article be split into separate Waterbury, Meriden, and Wallingford articles, since each is its own division within the company?

If that is to be the case, what about more general categories that CTtransit applies, like "Express Routes"? They did have their own separate numbering system...

Now, I don't want to speak over any discussion that might exist, but I feel as though there are a few things which could be done to improve the current situation:

1. (And probably least controversially) Rename the divisions' articles from "Connecticut Transit X Division" to "CT Transit X Division". The company goes by CT Transit, not Connecticut Transit, evident in the main article.
2. Remove route information from the divisions' articles. I can't bother to check every single route, but the lists seem very out of date at a glance. This would remove glut from articles like the Hartford Division and make them far more manageable. I wouldn't be opposed to creating route articles, so long as they're notable. (Given just how outdated the present information is, they probably would have to be largely from scratch.)
3. Separate the Waterbury, Meriden, and Wallingford articles from the current Northeast Transportation Company article. Right now the article is barely about the company. Nearly all of its content is outdated route information, so doing something here wouldn't be much of a loss...
4. Consider Division articles to be about the CT Transit Divisions, not the companies which operate them. Right now I am working on a DATTCO article, and even though it's not implicated all too much here, creating separate articles for the companies which operate these routes (other than just lumping them in under the division they've been assigned to) would be a good move in my opinion.

I would like to hear what others have to think though. The mess of articles has been bothering me for a while seeing as how important CTtransit is in Connecticut... Artsistra (talk) 04:04, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

• Okay. It's been about 4 months with no input here. Because of this I'm going to be WP:BOLD and do the following:

1. Move CT Transit's divisions from "Connecticut Transit" to "CT Transit" (already done)
2. Remove route information from division articles, make the divisions about the divisions themselves.
3. Create articles for lists of routes (ex. List of CT Transit express routes, List of CT Transit local routes) based on precedent with MTA Maryland articles (List of MTA Maryland bus routes)
   Just posting this here for the record. Artsistra (talk) 20:28, 2 May 2023 (UTC)