Talk:Bruce Ryan (production designer)

article decline appeal

Reviewer states "This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources." This is just plain wrong! Perhaps reviewer was looking at an earlier draft which had sources Wikipedia considers unreliable. I removed all such sources from the version reviewer claims to have reviewed. The article cites only reliable sources. Please retracy declination. Thank you. Sylvan1971 (talk) 19:43, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

Sources need to meet, in general, five prongs to be considered reliable:

1. Discusses the subject in depth
2. Isn't routine coverage
3. Has no direct connexion to the subject or their surrogates (i.e. they can't have influenced the source's content)
4. Is written by an identifiable author (There are exceptions to this, but in general role or omitted bylines are churnalism)
5. Has undergone a rigourous editorial process that includes fact-checking

The lot of your sources fail the first prong, being nothing but passing mentions in credits, profiles, or interviews. You have nothing that actually talks about the subject or their work, and that is where you are stumbling. Just because the outlet is usable doesn't mean we blindly accept everything that outlet puts out as a source. Context matters.

This situation is very common with respect to "backstage" personnel working in any aspect of the entertainment industries as they get none of the credit or blame, excepting particularly egregious examples, for their work - it all goes to either the stars or the showrunner/producers/director/writer. This in turn means it's next to impossible to have an article on them simply because the sources we're looking for do not exist. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 23:14, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

Page move to mainspace request

{{subst:requested move|Bruce Ryan ([production designer)|I have been working on this draft article for almost two years and have responded to every editor's helpful comment by making appropriate changes. The comments have stopped coming, the subject has recently received a new award nomination and I feel this article is ready for mainspace. I moved it myself but this was undone by an editor. I should add that the talk page includes an unsigned accusation that this article may have been created or edited in return for undisclosed payments. This is completely false. I have never received payment for an edit and have no COI with respect to this article. Thank you.}} Sylvan1971 (talk) 18:10, 27 January 2024 (UTC)