Talk:Boycott (2021 film)
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A fact from Boycott (2021 film) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 17 December 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
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Did you know nomination
edit- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 21:54, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
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- ... that Boycott includes the stories of three Americans who sued their state governments after being affected by anti-BDS laws? Source: Jewish Currents
- ALT1: ... that the documentary film Boycott includes the stories of three Americans who sued their state governments after anti-BDS laws led the states to terminate business contracts with them? Source: see previous
- ALT2: ... that the director of the 2021 film Boycott, Julia Bacha (pictured), previously created other films that were critical of the Israeli occupation? Source: Jewish Telegraphic Agency
- Reviewed: Pronunciation of GIF
- Comment: Image only included for ALT2. Article moved to mainspace just before nomination.
Created by Ezlev (talk). Self-nominated at 04:44, 30 November 2021 (UTC).
- Its new and big enough with enough refs. The three hooks all check out with the supplied refs. I prefer alt2 as I had no idea what ANTI-BDS means and it took me a couple of minutes to find out. Your average hook clicker needs the recognition of ALT2 IMO. (By the way, I used some of the text to improve the directors biog). The image is fine. Earwig and I think there is little chance of close paraphrasing. Its a tricky subject and I'm not sure about the "Broader Context" section which seems one sided (was this view 100% supported by the court cases?). I suspect there may be sources that would have a different interpretation. Are there and is it possible to include these to give a "Broader Context"? Expert views welcomed. Victuallers (talk) 13:14, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
- Victuallers, the "Broader Context" subsection is within the “Synopsis” section - I intended it as a synopsis of the broader context provided in the film, which of course wasn’t unbiased. Rather than trying to make it less one-sided, I think the solution here is probably to make it clearer that it’s a synopsis subsection, maybe by changing the subheading or tweaking some wording? I’ll look forward to seeing your thoughts on this. ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 15:55, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
- I think that will work. Although her organisation claimed to be non-partisan it obviously isn't. Its a point of view I can personally support however Wiki needs to be seen as neutral and maybe the title of "Broader Context" was not quite deserved. Is there a ref to people/sources who did not welcome her film? Victuallers (talk) 19:53, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
- Not at the moment, Victuallers, although I assume a critical review or response will appear in an RS before too long. I'll add one when I find it, but it'll probably go in a "Response" or "Reception" section, since the "Broader Context" subsection is about the content of the documentary rather than responses to it. I've changed the subheading from "Broader Context" to "Additional content" and improved attribution in that subsection to make clear that the claims made by the documentary are not in wikivoice. Does that satisfy? ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 20:08, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Ezlev: I was in two minds but decided to tick. I was hoping to add a bit about Facebook banning adverts for the film in Israel but I could not refind the source (which I thought I had read). Please add it if you can find it. I was also troubled by a discussion of a politicians religous beliefs guiding his framing of laws (not in his bio). It was sourced but I lacked access and I didnt think AGF was sufficient in this case. To keep DYK moving I deleted that bit which wasn't, I think, essential. Hope thats OK Victuallers (talk) 11:57, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
- Its new and big enough with enough refs. The three hooks all check out with the supplied refs. I prefer alt2 as I had no idea what ANTI-BDS means and it took me a couple of minutes to find out. Your average hook clicker needs the recognition of ALT2 IMO. (By the way, I used some of the text to improve the directors biog). The image is fine. Earwig and I think there is little chance of close paraphrasing. Its a tricky subject and I'm not sure about the "Broader Context" section which seems one sided (was this view 100% supported by the court cases?). I suspect there may be sources that would have a different interpretation. Are there and is it possible to include these to give a "Broader Context"? Expert views welcomed. Victuallers (talk) 13:14, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
ALT0 to T:DYK/P2