Talk:Boyar

Latest comment: 1 year ago by 94.17.154.23 in topic Turkification of Proto-Slavic words

Boyarin comes from Boyara

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In Russia, the boyar was originally a large landowner. I drew attention to this and found that the term BOYARA ( ru: БОЯРА ) in Asia Minor (Palestine) meant a plot of fertile land with a close location of groundwater and water keys, which reduced the cost of irrigation and allowed to receive large yields. So I came to the conclusion that the word boyar (ru: Боярин ) means rich landowner of the most fertile lands.АСмуров (talk) 09:12, 30 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

Source ru: Меерович, М.Г., Описание еврейских колоний в Палестине / Сост. агр. М.Г. Меерович. - Одесса : Ком. о-ва вспомоществования евреям земледельцам и ремесленникам в Сирии и Палестине, 1900 (обл. 1901). - 196 с.АСмуров (talk) 09:23, 30 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

Baltic German nobility

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Can anyone please clarify what boyars have to do with the Baltic German nobility? The Balts were ethnic Germans whose lands at some point came under imperial Russian administration, but that doesn't suddenly make them russians or boyars.195.202.44.90 (talk) 15:14, 8 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

Turkification of Proto-Slavic words

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Proto-Slavic is an Indo-european language. Words like "Boyar" or "Bogatyr" are of Indo-european origin and have no roots in Turkic! In fact, it is the Turkic languages that adapted many Indo-european words. There is no evidence for these words to be of turkic origin and the creators who constantly add imaginary turkic orgin theories to wikipedia articles about the etymology of Slavic words seem to follow some type of agenda. 94.17.154.23 (talk) 05:49, 1 October 2023 (UTC)Reply