Talk:Borat (soundtrack)

Latest comment: 10 years ago by Cuchullain in topic Requested move 2

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Does the page for Borat's movie soundtrack hold the record for the single longest entry name in Wikipedia? Please, discuss! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Franck Drake (talkcontribs) 07:01, 20 November 2006

Theres A Dissertation on the American Justice System by People Who Have Never Been Inside a Courtroom, Let Alone Know Anything About the Law, but Have Seen Way Too Many Legal Thrillers-- Coasttocoast 03:33, 23 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

And that's not even the longest title for a Clerks episode! It's also not nearly as long as When the Pawn..., but then again, what is? -- Kicking222 05:08, 29 November 2006 (UTC)Reply
Never heard of Krungthepmahanakornamornratanakosinmahintarayutthayamahadilokphopnopparatrajathaniburiromudomrajaniwesmahasatharnamornphimarnavatarnsathitsakkattiyavisanukamprasit? --Deskana (For Great Justice!) 11:07, 8 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Everybody's Talking

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Did I hear the song "Everbody's Talking" by Nilsson in the movie, or have I gone insane? If I am right, it should be mentioned in this article. --Cs1987 13:45, 27 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Requested move

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was NO CONSENSUS to move page at this time. Some good arguments were raised by Anþony regarding WP:COMMONNAME. However, it appears from numerous precedents that when an artistic work has a long title, we're willing to use the whole thing as an aritlce title, even if the full title isn't the most common name, until we run into the 256 character limit. That Clerks episode is an example. Perhaps the guideline should be updated to reflect this apparent consensus? If this article is to move, I think it should be subsequent to some discussion over at WP:NC determining a consensus on how we handle artistic works with titles in the 100-256 character range. Meanwhile, redirects are in place. -GTBacchus(talk) 23:03, 10 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

Stereophonic Musical Listenings That Have Been Origin in Moving Film "Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan"something sane — Current name takes up full two lines at 1024*768. Proposed alternate names are Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan (soundtrack) (previous name prior to a page move) or maybe just Borat (soundtrack)? Feel free to suggest other names. 74.109.173.23 00:42, 5 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

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It seems the move is going down, but I'd like to point out that WP:COMMONNAME takes precedence here, not what's printed on the album cover. Wikipedia does not care about the "correct" name of anything.

Also, if the only reason to shorten When the Pawn is the technical limitation, why isn't it at When the Pawn Hits the Conflicts He Thinks like a King What He Knows Throws the Blows When He Goes to the Fight And He'll Win the Whole Thing 'Fore He Enters the Ring There's No Body to Batter When Your Mind Is Your Might So When You Go Solo, You Hold You?  Anþony  talk  05:09, 6 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

Because that is an example where you HAVE to use a common name. Also, I never hear people talk about the Borat soundtrack, so I can't say what people usually call it, whereas I've heard people talk about Fiona Apple's album, which they call "When the Pawn..." (except for me- I use its full title, because it's fun to say). -- Kicking222 15:56, 6 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
But ... we always HAVE to use a common name. Says so in WP:COMMONNAME. The common name is not the backup, it's the default. When the Pawn is not the exception, it's the rule.
You just called it "the Borat soundtrack", which is what I would call it and what Amazon calls it. I can guar-an-frigging-tee nobody calls it Stereophonic Musical Listenings That Have Been Origin in Moving Film "Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan".
How do you think people will find this page? Will anyone, ever type out that entire name? I'll bet that Borat soundtrack redirect is going to get a lot of use.  Anþony  talk  16:28, 6 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
Then let the redirect get a lot of use. I bet, in casual conversation, more people call America's president "Dubya" than "George W. Bush," but that's why Dubya is a redirect. I'm quite positive more people say ADHD than Attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder, but guess which one is the name of the the article. As far as this article is concerned, the title is the title is the title. If there isn't a technical reason to change it (which there's not), then we shouldn't change it. -- Kicking222 17:52, 6 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
Actually, George W. Bush is more commonly referred to as such: 46.1 Mghits for "george w. bush" in quotes[2] versus 4.9 Mghits for dubya.[3] As for ADHD, WP:COMMONNAME does allow for several exceptions, particularly if the most common name is not particularly precise or may lead to confusion, preferring the most "obvious" name in such cases. For some, the meaning of "ADHD" may not be particularly obvious, even if it is common, so the full name is used.
451 ghits for Stereophonic Musical Listenings That Have Been Origin in Moving Film Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan [4]
1.1 Mghits for borat soundtrack [5]
I quote WP:COMMONNAME: "When choosing a name for a page ask yourself: What word would the average user of the Wikipedia put into the search engine?" To put it simply, this article violates that guideline.  Anþony  talk  18:18, 6 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
You need to put it in quotes to have a hope of establishing comparability: [6] -- AnonMoos 03:21, 8 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
Ok, 36,000 instead[7]. My mistake. Still beats the pants off of 254 for the album title with quotes[8]. Even weird ones like "soundtrack borat"[9] (625) and "borat movie soundtrack"[10] (1,010) beat out the official title.  Anþony  talk  07:54, 8 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
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Song at start of film and songs not on album

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What is the song that plays as Borat is leaving the villiage when he says "I go to America"? It's not on the album and as far as I can tell it is not one of the 2 songs listed at the bottom of the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.28.206.127 (talkcontribs) 09:22, 24 January 2007

Mahalageasca, by Mahala Rai Banda. Note that this is the original version, and not the remix heard at the end of the movie. This is not on the soundtrack. Pacific Coast Highway {talkcontribs} 04:08, 14 April 2007 (UTC)Reply

Also does anyone have links to the songs not on the album? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.28.206.127 (talkcontribs) 09:22, 24 January 2007

"Kaleš, bre, Andjo"

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is a Macedonian folk song, from Bitola more precisely, not Serbian. Please correct this. Thanks, --Bonina 14:12, 13 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

is it really legal???

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my friend downloaded a bittorrent copy of the borat soundtrack which included a readme file. the file appears to be a letter from cohen, as borat, stating that it is legal to download this album for free, since most people of Kazakhstan use cassette tape here is the note that came with the soundtrack.

Yakshemesh!

I have made for you listenings pleasure copy of CD "Stereophonic Musical Listenings That Have Been Origin Moviefilm" from

my moviefilm "Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan"

In my country, is not crime to make CD for listenings other people (unless you make CD for the Jew). In fact, in Kazakhstan not many peoples have the CD, they have the tape cassette. For this reason I make copy and put on internets.

My brother Bilo, he like to dance.

Please, make pleasure with your ears!

Chenquoui Borat


So my question is, is it really legal??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.140.48.191 (talkcontribs) 19:44, 28 May 2007

  • WHY DOESENT ANYONE SIGN ANYMORE?!?!?

Anyways, the short answer: NO.

Long answer: He never said it was for download. Didn't you read the part that said it was on iTunes? THAT'S what he meant. Besides, "Chenquieh" is spelled wrong (I saw the subtitles in the movie.) you're not colorblind, it's colored this way. Misteryoshi 20:55, 22 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

Requested move 2

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Move. Cúchullain t/c 15:38, 3 January 2014 (UTC)Reply



Stereophonic Musical Listenings That Have Been Origin in Moving Film "Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan"Borat (soundtrack) – The proposed name is a WP:CONCISE WP:COMMONNAME, especially compared to the unwieldy official name. This probably should have happened back in February 2011, when Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan was moved to Borat. --BDD (talk) 17:49, 16 December 2013 (UTC)Reply

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