Talk:Bluebeard's Castle

Latest comment: 4 years ago by 75.169.12.27 in topic Why no "duke" in the English title?

Movie version

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The article makes reference to "the movie". Is there a standard movie version of the opera? Can a reference to that be added? --Malcohol 11:03, 6 February 2006 (UTC)Reply


There is a movie version with Robert Lloyd & Elizibeth Laurence NVC Arts/Teldec. Unfortunatly it is only in the UK pal format. I ordered it from Amazon.UK.co 2 years ago but havn't yet transfered it to NTSC format. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0364318/ I just checked again and it seems to out of print everywhere

I have an NTSC original version of this... --Chinasaur 08:57, 7 August 2006 (UTC)Reply
Is it any good? --NicholasPrakash 03:13, 9 August 2006 (UTC)Reply
I really like it. The production is literal to the dialogue; rather than the doors and lights of the stage version, there are actual rooms and armor and a garden, etc. The exception is the first door, where as far as I can tell they just couldn't get the props together or something, so there's nothing in there (except for bleeding walls). The fifth door is kind of bizarre too. But the singing is good, orchestra is good, general ambiance is good, costumes are good, ending is really f'ing scary. Acting is no revelation, but it's fine. I don't really know what more you could do with these roles unless you were going to take the text very literally, which would also be weird. --Chinasaur 04:58, 10 August 2006 (UTC)Reply
Intresting I'm gonna have to transfer it to NTSC format and watch it. I'm kind of a film auteur myself and would love to do it as a movie. I would have about 1/2 hour of dialogue about a man who is in a catatonic coma as the dialogue then go into the opera as if it it was in his mind. It would be in the same vein as Das Cabinet des Doktor Caligari. Of course who would you cast as Bluebeard & Judith?NicholasPrakash 17:20, 13 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

There is another version: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0239544/ but it is also out of print.

By the way the English translation of the opera is 'Duke Bluebeard's Castle'.--NicholasPrakash 14:46, 3 August 2006 (UTC)Reply


I moved the following from the article, since it is an editorial interpolation:

(Editorial comment by MH: the wives are not "amazingly" or "seemingly" alive; the doors represent the various aspects of Bluebeard's personality. The wives behind the seventh door are alive because they live in his memory, as all former lovers live in the memories of their partners.) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.179.89.49 (talkcontribs).

It may be a good idea to incorporate some of this into the article. A cite would be helpful. Antandrus (talk) 22:29, 16 December 2006 (UTC)Reply


The article makes no mention of the Columbia recording (1987, I believe) with Samuel Ramey (bass), Eva Marton (soprano), and the Hungarian State Orchestra conducted by Adam Fischer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.82.12.182 (talk) 07:41, 2 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

The ending

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WTF about the ending? I find it rather stupid to say that "a new ending [was] added in 1917" and then not to speak about that again. Either the original ending is known, or it is not: if it is not known, just fucking write that, and if it is, of course write that in the synopsis. --Lo'oris (talk) 09:44, 3 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

Since you ask so nicely, I'll second your motion for someone to expand the article. The changes dont much affect the synopsis, iirc, but take a look at the bibliography in the meantime. Sparafucil (talk) 04:04, 5 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

Canadian Opera Company production

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Is there a reason that the Canadian Opera Company production is not listed in the Performance History section? I'm not familiar with any Wikipedia standard or guidelines on what should and should not be included in sections such as this; if there are some, can someone provide a reference? Performances going back to 1993 are mentioned at "Review - Bluebeard's Castle / Erwartung - Canadian Opera Company, Toronto - Christopher Hoile" (http://www.stage-door.com/Theatre/2001/Entries/2001/10/6_Bluebeards_Castle___Erwartung.html) GCL (talk) 03:05, 12 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

It's probably just not complete -- I don't see why you can't add it. I saw a brilliant production of Bluebeard's Castle just a few months ago (November 2014) by the Los Angeles Opera, which I suppose could also be mentioned. Antandrus (talk) 03:56, 12 February 2015 (UTC)Reply
Hi GCL. As Antandrus says, the section may simply be incomplete. However, there have been dozens of productions of this opera worldwide. Generally, we list country premieres, premieres of revised versions, or productions that have been particularly notable in some way—a role debut of the lead singer(s), unusual staging, etc. I would suggest only adding other productions if they supported by an inline reference attesting to the notability of that production. The Bartered bride is a featured article. Perhaps use the Performance history section there as a guide. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 09:32, 12 February 2015 (UTC)Reply
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Why no "duke" in the English title?

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Can somebody please explain why the Hungarian and German versions of the title include the title "Duke" (herceg/ Herzog) but the English version does not? 75.169.12.27 (talk) 04:36, 2 September 2020 (UTC)Reply