Talk:Block (Internet)
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editWhat's wrong with the tone/style? Was that an old version? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.207.2.31 (talk) 02:30, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
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Soft Ban
editThis place needs information about the practice of soft banning people. eg. Showing errors to undesirable users. Gamerman2360 (talk) 00:19, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
content
editI've replaced the unsourced content, in violation of WP:SELF, with sourced content about "blocking" as used outside of Wikipedia. If editor(s) wish to add discussion of Wikipedia practices they should add references. Nobody Ent 13:40, 17 June 2012 (UTC) Note the disambig page contains the appropriate link to Wikipedia blocking, so editors looking for Wikipedia, as opposed to rest of the world, blocking, can easily find it. Nobody Ent 14:02, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
- I think the content you removed was perhaps written from a Wikipedia-centric point of view, but it was not really a violation of WP:SELF (since it did not mention Wikipedia specifically, and it could well be relevant to other sites). Regardless of this, if the deleted text (or any other information) is going to be added to the article, some references really should be found. — This, that, and the other (talk) 07:29, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
- Well, sort of. While it didn't say "Wikipedia" it was obviously describing how Wikipedia does things. But the point is valid and I've added a mention of server side blocking. Nobody Ent 09:50, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
- I too am of the opinion that what you removed didn't violate [[WP:SELF]. Yes, that's the way it works on Wikipedia, but it's also the way it works on every other MediaWiki wiki, several other types of wiki (at least, I don't have experience of most other wiki software) and is similar to the way it's done on at least some forum software. Yes, it could do with improved phrasing and referencing, but that doesn't require removal. I'll see what I can do to work it back in. Thryduulf (talk) 16:44, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
- Please add references to the newly added material. Nobody Ent 22:24, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
- Next time I'm on a proper (ie not GPRS) connection that isn't configured so badly that 2 out of 3 attempts to load pages on google, yahoo, bing and duckduckgo (and 9 out of 10 on Facebook) times out, then I'll see what I can do. Please feel free to add some yourself in the meanwhile. I don't think that there is anything I added that isn't either fairly easily citeable or trivially tightened up into something that is. Thryduulf (talk) 23:50, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
- Removed content (it's been 11 days). If we are to have an encyclopedia article about wikipedia style blocking it needs to be supported by outside reliable sources. Nobody Ent 23:52, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
- Next time I'm on a proper (ie not GPRS) connection that isn't configured so badly that 2 out of 3 attempts to load pages on google, yahoo, bing and duckduckgo (and 9 out of 10 on Facebook) times out, then I'll see what I can do. Please feel free to add some yourself in the meanwhile. I don't think that there is anything I added that isn't either fairly easily citeable or trivially tightened up into something that is. Thryduulf (talk) 23:50, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
- Please add references to the newly added material. Nobody Ent 22:24, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
- I too am of the opinion that what you removed didn't violate [[WP:SELF]. Yes, that's the way it works on Wikipedia, but it's also the way it works on every other MediaWiki wiki, several other types of wiki (at least, I don't have experience of most other wiki software) and is similar to the way it's done on at least some forum software. Yes, it could do with improved phrasing and referencing, but that doesn't require removal. I'll see what I can do to work it back in. Thryduulf (talk) 16:44, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
- Well, sort of. While it didn't say "Wikipedia" it was obviously describing how Wikipedia does things. But the point is valid and I've added a mention of server side blocking. Nobody Ent 09:50, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
This is misleading
edit"Blocking and its inverse, unblocking, may be implemented by the owners of computers using software." That sentence might lead a reader to think that software could be available to them that unblocks their access to sites that are censored in the country where they are located. The previous version ""Blocking may be implemented by the owners of computers using software." is not only correct, but corresponds to the topic of the page. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 16:31, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
Almost no discussion of Internet banning in discussion places
editThe current page describes computer security blocks placed on IPs by servers. It doesn't describe the use of bans in the governance of discussion spaces at all - something that it should really do. I added a paragraph, but if anyone else has sources and material, please add more?
Merge Ban evasion here
editBan evasion could be made into a section of Block (internet) as Ban evasion is just a subtopic of Block (internet) and Ban evasion is not notable on its own. -KAP03(Talk • Contributions • Email) 20:26, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
Ban evasion Merged
editI have merged the Ban evasion page with this one and nominated the Ban evasion page for deletion. 164.106.75.241 (talk) 18:28, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
Requested move 16 June 2023
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) – MaterialWorks 17:50, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
Block (Internet) → Ban (Internet) – The term "block" to refer to the subject of this article is only used on wikis. Everywhere else on the internet, "ban" is used for the subject of this article, while "block", if it exists, is the ignore feature. That means that the current title of this article is also ambiguous between two different topics. HotdogPi 14:03, 16 June 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 15:02, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- This page does not cover just forum restrictions. For example of regular use of the term "block", see Great Firewall. CMD (talk) 14:55, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose without more sources. You're correct in my experience, but multiple cited RS here do use it in that way. WPscatter t/c 04:28, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
- Note: WikiProject Internet has been notified of this discussion. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 15:02, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose The Economist, for example, uses the word "block" in the sense of blocking IP addresses and blocking web sites,[1] and also of users blocking advertisements.[2] -- Toddy1 (talk) 21:53, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose on Facebook blocks of preventing viewing or contacting as known as such and the FAQ also mentions about being blocked from things like sending friend requests. Crouch, Swale (talk) 16:25, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- Support A block on the internet is an IP range and there should be a hatnote, or it should just redirect to subnetwork -- 64.229.90.172 (talk) 04:40, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
- I don't necessarily think the subnet usage is WP:PTOPIC for "block" on the internet nowadays (it's pretty technical and most people would be more familiar with blocking someone on social media) but agree it should be addressed via hatnote. WPscatter t/c 06:00, 25 June 2023 (UTC)