Talk:Black bean paste

Zao fan

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This the mandarin letter for zao fan sorry my computer cannot write this. so please, people who more capable could help me about this mandarin letter. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Daimond (talk • contribs) .

What do you want to know? - UtherSRG (talk) 13:35, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

verivy this letter zao fan and how to make tau sa, I have only limited knowlegd about this, only know they made tau sa with this ingredients, don't know how they mixed and prosesing or production this mung bean with this zao fan powder to become tau sa [black bean paste] did this zao fan have english name???. I already interview and ask a few people in mywork place store [our store sold this zao fan powder, ussualy in near this moon festival time a few people bought this zao fan for making tausa (black bean paste) for filling it to mooncake ] but the worker in my workplace shop do not know how used or mixed this with mung bean, and as far I only able get that zao fan in mandarin letter and zao fan spelled so please verivy this. Daimond 14:14, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Looks like the first character is 皁 but you've written the second one too grassy to be intelligible. Badagnani 17:08, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Could it be 皂坊? Or 皂粉? Badagnani 17:12, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

It's not an "earth" or "rice" radical but a "rock" radical. The characters are "皂矾", a type of hydrated Iron Sulphate. In mineral form they are know as "melanterite". Pretty green crystal. Sjschen 07:57, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

You're good! So this ingredient (also called "copperas") may be used for the oil bean paste, but only in Indonesia? Any Chinese-language sources you can find? Badagnani 08:12, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Mistake

i have mistaken this item with other item, yesterday i check again this item find out what i look before are mistaken this item color are green and crytalis not powder.Daimond 16:35, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

this zao fan in Indonesia name are tawas hijau, procesing the mung bean to steam until soft put sugar and this green crystal Daimond 16:44, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Name of this article

This article seems to be about a sweet paste made from mung beans and calls it dousha, but I think "black bean paste" usually refers to the savoury stuff made from fermented soya beans, also dousha as in mooncakes and doushabao is made from red beans (adzuki) not mung beans, but I'm not 100% on this, it's just what I thought. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] LDHan 16:34, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Should the hanzi for "black bean paste" (the sweet kind discussed here) be 黑豆沙? Badagnani 18:51, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Looks like it might actually be 油豆沙. Badagnani 19:00, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Should there be some sort of sentence telling the reader of stuffs to which the term "black bean paste" refers? Sjschen 08:02, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

I am leaning toward an article for black bean potato paste (黑豆沙, a sweet, unfermented paste made from black soybean powder and potatoes, from Beijing, as described by the anon guy from Beijing--if he's right about it); and another article for the red bean paste that's cooked with fat and sugar to become black. The thing is, the latter, I think, should be called oil bean paste (油豆沙). Badagnani 08:06, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

To answer your question, I think this article should be a disambig page, with links to black bean potato paste, oil bean paste, and maybe also chunjang (the one used for jajangmyeon). And whichever other Chinese pastes are black. I guess yellow soybean paste and sweet noodle sauce could be black in color; not sure about doubanjiang. Badagnani 08:10, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Oh, there's the other black bean paste the anon mentions: "There is another black bean paste that is identical to red bean paste in the rest of China, utilizing the same material, Azuki beans, and the only exception is that the color of the Azuki beans used is black instead of red, hence, the name black bean paste. Traditionally, this black bean paste and the black bean potato paste are both called black bean paste, indistinguishable from each other by names, but they were distinguishable by price due to the following reasons:" Badagnani 08:18, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

This appears to be a tin of red bean (azuki) paste but it's labelled as hei dou sha and "black bean paste". The stuff in the picture on the tin certainly looks darkish red, I haven't opened the tin yet... LDHan 21:23, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Is potassium chlorate really an ingredient?

I somewhat doubt that such a flammable material is used for any culinary reason. I suspect this is a mistake that has been reproduced across the internet. 2600:100E:B013:5039:D10A:43CF:C995:BF93 (talk) 22:44, 2 September 2023 (UTC)