Talk:Biopreparat

Latest comment: 3 days ago by Andecombogios in topic This page is a travesty

Sourcing / Quality

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The ratio between sources and detail in this article is severely lacking. The major source is, basically, a biography and the authors of the current version of the article have made very little effort to even show which details were drawn from the source in question. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.185.138.121 (talk) 22:36, 17 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Ebolapox and Veepox

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The source that claims Biopreparat laboratories are producing Ebolapox to use for eradication of specific ethnic groups is blatant conspiracy theory fear-mongering; the science is completely incorrect, and veepox has a similar lack of any scientific study backing the sources. I think that these should be removed from the list of pathogens. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.111.5.26 (talk) 09:19, 19 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

Alibek

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Here, read the interview with this clown. There seems to have been some research into disease as part of Soviet vaccine and medical development, but predominately the guy just jumped the train in 1992 and helped US bankrupt the plant, then went to US and grabbed some funds by selling Soviet knowledge to US NIH, then published his fantasy book he is very proud of, and when all cashing possibilities run out, decided to return to Kazachstan and pose as pacifist: https://web.archive.org/web/20150722044751/http://informburo.kz/politika/armiya/ken-alibek-ya-sdelal-vse-chtoby-lyudi-uznali-pravdu-o-biologicheskom-oruzhii-2084.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.196.228.236 (talk) 02:35, 22 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

This page is a travesty

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I seriously think this page should either be expanded with actual evidence that the Soviet bureau in question existed, or be deleted outright as speculative fiction. Right now this page is the book summary of the works of one Soviet defector, who is not inherently a reliable source given that defectors are incentivised to exaggerate or fabricate their claims, and a single pop history book by a researcher with an incredibly low citation ratio on his actual papers. Any manner of Russian language source would be helpful, particularly if it were actual documents demonstrating this bureau's existence from the Russian Federation or the USSR. We should not present pop culture fantasies as fact on Wikipedia. Is there even evidence that this is an actual organisation in the Soviet Union? 'Biopreparat' for example is the sort of contraction used for longer official bureau names, but no official 'long' bureau name is provided to ground this in the fact that it was a real Soviet government organisation, in the same way as something more conventional, such as the State Committee for Labour and Social Issues abbreviated 'Goskomtrud'. Plus, 'Biopreparat' despite looking like 'biological preparation' in English reads as 'biological medicine' in Russian, which suggests it has been made up to look suitably 'Russian yet recognisable' for the English-speaking audience. Andecombogios (talk) 23:43, 14 November 2024 (UTC)Reply