Talk:Be Best

List of proclamations by Donald Trump

Should List of proclamations by Donald Trump be added to the "See also" section, and/or should Be Best be added to List of proclamations by Donald Trump? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:48, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Logo

I noticed a logo displayed during her announcement. I assume this would be ok to upload under fair use?, assuming I can find a file online. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 20:06, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

As a US government work, it should be freely usable. whitehouse.gov has a link to copyright policy in their footer which says all work for the site is not copyright protected.

So unless you see it otherwise labeled as copyrighted, there should be no problem.--NapoliRoma (talk) 00:38, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

Criticism

I see someone added a sentence re: criticism of grammar. Should we add mention that some people have called Melania hypocritical for not speaking out against her husband's so-called cyberbullying (using Wikipedia-approriate sourcing and wording, of course)? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:17, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

• also, this: http://people.com/politics/melania-trump-be-best-similar-michelle-obama/. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 01:02, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

@Galobtter: I see you removed mention of the grammar criticism. I'd say this is significant. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:33, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

Well, perhaps you can add it back but make it clear that it is some twitter users, and represent the sources well Galobtter (pingó mió) 02:17, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

I mean, there's plenty:

• https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/may/08/be-best-melania-trump-initiative-grammatical-flaw
• https://slate.com/technology/2018/05/be-best-has-to-be-a-bad-slogan-on-purpose.html
• http://www.newsweek.com/what-does-be-best-mean-melania-trump-913429

---Another Believer _(Talk) 02:43, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Another editor has added related content. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:38, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

I don't know why this well-sourced section should not be included? It was discussed on twitter, but it was also discussed by many reputable sources. Here are just a few more, in addition to the Guardian, Slate and Newsweek:

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/the-childlike-strangeness-of-melania-trumps-be-best-campaign

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/07/melania-trump-steps-limelight-best-campaign-children/

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44034723

https://www.sfchronicle.com/news/article/Melania-Trump-s-new-initiative-needs-a-new-name-12898575.php

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7833712/white-house-melania-trump-red-christmas-tree/

I suggest to re-insert the version above, together with additional references

Porridge (talk) 06:43, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Sources

• https://slate.com/human-interest/2018/05/melanias-be-best-campaign-sure-sounds-like-a-direct-rebuke-to-her-husband.html
• https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2018/05/melania-trump-be-best/559859/
• https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/8xkwy3/melania-trumps-new-be-best-pamphlet-was-first-published-under-the-obama-administration
• https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/07/us/politics/melania-trump-children.html
• https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/07/melania-trump-launches-be-best-initiative-to-promote-childrens-well-being.html
• https://www.npr.org/2018/05/07/609180852/first-lady-melania-trump-unveils-be-best-campaign-focusing-on-children
• https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2018/may/07/melania-trump-announces-her-new-be-best-initiative-for-children-video
• https://www.cnet.com/news/melania-trump-unveils-be-best-campaign-to-combat-cyberbullying/
• http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/melania-trump-best-campaign-raises-confusion-broken-link-article-1.3976298
• http://fortune.com/2018/05/07/melania-trump-be-best-initiative-children/
• https://www.cbsnews.com/news/first-lady-melania-trump-announces-initiatives-on-childrens-well-being-live-stream/
• https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/07/melania-trump-steps-limelight-best-campaign-children/
• http://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/2145071/melania-trump-launches-be-best-initiative-focused

---Another Believer _(Talk) 01:04, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

Redundant citations

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/17/us/politics/melania-trump-first-lady.html https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/402435-trump-didnt-want-melanias-platform-to-be-anti-bullying-initiative This The Hill article, along with the NY Times article, is cited as a source for this sentence in the History section: "Her husband Donald Trump reportedly tried to persuade her to change topics so she could avoid dealing with his own Twitter habits, but Mrs. Trump said she was willing to face any criticism."

However, the article from The Hill is just citing the NY Times and repeating what they said, without having additional sources on that topic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by StuffedTurkey007 (talk • contribs) 22:24, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

Saturday Night Live reference

• https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/peloton-bike-ad-commercial-saturday-night-live
• https://www.thedailybeast.com/snl-jimmy-fallons-trudeau-paul-rudds-macron-and-james-cordens-boris-johnson-bully-alec-baldwins-trump
• https://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/television/2019/12/08/snl-makes-fun-impeachment-peloton-and-nato-cool-kids/HMqkiv0UnomBRvzBPieYdO/story.html

---Another Believer _(Talk) 00:49, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

GA Review

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Be Best/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Colin M (talk · contribs) 00:23, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Stay tuned for initial thoughts/feedback. :) Colin M (talk) 00:23, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

I'm actually going to put this review on hold for reasons brought up by MrLinkinPark333 here. But I hope everything will be cleared up within the next few days. Colin M (talk) 02:46, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Colin M, Nominator has been confirmed as a sockpuppet. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/FIang_Xdot_repasent_aa (t · c) buidhe 05:55, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

@Buidhe: So I'm not at all familiar with the SPI process, but the message at the top said "it is now awaiting administration and close", so I assumed the outcome wasn't finalized (also, the user doesn't seem to be blocked). Am I misunderstanding? Or is it just that it's a foregone conclusion at this point based on the evidence? Colin M (talk) 14:01, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Colin M, If you look at the bottom of the SPI page, the username in question is "confirmed" to be a sockpuppet. I believe that all that happens next is that an administrator blocks the abusive accounts and closes the investigation. (t · c) buidhe 14:42, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

N It seems no-one is interested in taking the place of the nominator for this GAN, so I'm spiking this review and rescinding the nom. Colin M (talk) 23:00, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Anyone care to step in as GA respondent?

I was going to do a WP:GA review of this article, but the nominator was just banned. Anyone care to step in as point of contact for a GA review? If I don't get any takers within a week, I'll just remove the nomination. Colin M (talk) 18:11, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

• There is a GA backlog drive commencing today. Wait and see if a participant the drive picks this up. --Whiteguru (talk) 22:15, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
  • The sock who nominated this did a lot to butcher the article and was reverted in everything except the GA nom. I don't think this should be considered a serious nom. schetm (talk) 22:48, 1 July 2021 (UTC)