Talk:BYU Cougars football

Consecutive non-shutouts

Some mention should be made somewhere of BYU's long-running record of consecutive games without being shut out (though sadly this ended a couple years ago). —pfahlstrom 16:59, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

"Brigham Young Cougars"

The article is called "Brigham Young Cougars football" and the phrase "Brigham Young Cougars" is used several times. I realize that many (perhaps most) other schools can drop the "University" from their name and sound decent. However, I don't think I've ever heard anyone say "Brigham Young Cougars." I've only heard people call the Cougars the "Brigham Young University Cougars" or, more commonly, the "BYU Cougars." People don't typically drop the word University or the letter U, in my experience. Am I crazy or out of the loop? Does "Brigham Young Cougars" bother anyone else? Do people unrelated to BYU call them the "Brigham Young Cougars"? -Milkncookie 15:31, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

• I concur Milkncookie. I intended to move the page to BYU Cougars football, but you beat me to it. B 23:01, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Copyright protection of BYUlogo.png

The uploader of BYUlogo.png claimed that the 'stretch Y' logo used on the team's uniforms is not protectable under copyright; however it does meet all the requirements of protectability and therefore the proper rationale should be fair use, not public domain. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.152.243.235 (talk) 13:53, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

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Norm Chow

How does an article about BYU football not mention Norm Chow's name one time?

--209.12.46.2 (talk) 19:02, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

I concur. Absolutely unconscionable. Swcrowe (talk) 09:32, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

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Requested move

The following is a closed discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was Move Parsecboy (talk) 13:48, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

I personally haven't heard the team referred to in the media or elsewhere by the full school title followed by the nickname: "Brigham Young University Cougars". Much the same as ECU or USC. I've heard it called either BYU Cougars or, less frequently, Brigham Young. The school's official athletics website is called "BYUCougars.com". "BYU Cougars" is 34 times more prevalent according to Google hits: 598,000 compared with "Brigham Young University Cougar"'s 17,600. Also, this is not standardized with related articles: BYU Cougars men's basketball, 2008 BYU Cougars football team, 2007 BYU Cougars football team, etc. I intend to move this back to "BYU Cougars football" if there are no objections. Strikehold (talk) 07:39, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

• Here here. It should have never been moved.--2008Olympian^chitchat 08:47, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

• Since there've been no objections in over a week... Strikehold (talk) 06:35, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

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Too detailed

This article is too detailed. We don't need a lesson in ancient history. The article's main focus should be on the Lavell Edwards era to the present with much less detail about the leather helmet days that nobody cares about. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.162.161.51 (talk) 22:17, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Maybe we should add a specific article titled the "History of BYU Cougars football," move the currently detailed history section there, and keep a pared-down version of the history here. Mingjai (talk) 19:06, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Thoughts

This article is in great need of an overhaul and some restraint. First, this is a general article about BYU football, not a detailed account of every game, particularly recent games. The articles about each season are more appropriate places for specific game summaries, and even there they should be encyclopedic and not sound like something from the local newspaper. Next, please do not add statements and info without reliable sources. This article has almost no sources yet has tons of statements that demand them. On top of that it has statements like the Mountain West being the "best conference outside the SEC and Big-12" even though that statement really doesn't even belong in this article at all since the article is about BYU football, not the Mountain West Conference. If you're going to include ANY information, but especially information that claims something is "the best" or "highly-regarded" or any kind of statistic, YOU MUST HAVE A RELIABLE SOURCE that is cited in the article. This article is bloated with all kinds of fancruft and tangential information and is anything but encyclopedic. It's much more of a "fan page" than an article. --JonRidinger (talk) 20:22, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

RE: Thoughts. Agreed, it reads more like a fan page, some of it is rather debatable ad some crucial details left out but I dont feel like pointing everything I see out, if anyone cares, theyll probably do a better job than me anyway as Ive only followed them closely since moving close by BYU a couple years ago (for some reason).

Being a Huskies fan I would like to point out an often overlooked detail when we look back on the 1984 season is that one of the 5 losses Michigan had was to UW. Maybe there should be a controversies section there, stating the cases for and against the BYU title. Whether it was deserving or not.

RE: Huskies fan, UW's claim to a 1984 national championship is dubious at best. Each of the major selectors chose BYU, not Washington, as national champion. Washington didn't even win their conference, and so cannot logically have won the national championship. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.152.243.170 (talk) 13:44, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

"The Quest" should have been mentioned, it seems like a big part of their 2008 year...... with all the shirts. Living in Utah Valley, I still see LOTS of people wearing them around, even to the games.

BYU's officially listed hex dark blue

BYU officially lists its dark blue color as #001E4C as per BYU Identity Guidelines [1]. I made changes to the color swatch in the main information box and the table headings, but the changes were reverted back. I recognize that tan has been downplayed as a part of BYU's colors, but from what I understand, the dark blue has not changed. I suggest that this article should reflect BYU's official colors, rather than generic shades of dark blue. Mingjai (talk) 17:45, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

"BYU Blue" has changed to #002E5D per identity.byu.edu. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.213.35.106 (talk) 00:59, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Changed blue from #001E4C to #002E5D. Mingjai (talk) 22:51, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Made the change to #002E5D and then checked the BYU identity guidelines to find the blue has again changed to #002255. Updated to reflect this newer shade. Mingjai (talk) 23:22, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

September 2010 Athletics Conference Changes

It was recently announced that BYU will be moving to the West Coast Conference in all sports except for football, where the program will become independent. There need to be changes here, as well as in the article for BYU Cougars football. I thought this might be a good place to start collaborating and gathering good sources. If anyone wants to make the bold edits, go right ahead.  Amit  ►  19:45, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

New black uni's

I have made a black uniform to add to the page, how can i post it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.130.222.38 (talk) 05:25, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Anyone?

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Orphaned references in BYU Cougars football

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Reference named "CBSSports":

• From 2013 BYU Cougars football team: "Houston, BYU schedule series for first-ever meetings". CBS Sports. 2011-08-23. Retrieved 2012-01-10.
• From BYU Cougars future football schedules: "Houston, BYU schedule series for first-ever meetings". CBS Sports. August 23, 2011. Retrieved 2012-01-10.

Reference named "ESPN-Texas-BYU-Series":

• From 2013 BYU Cougars football team: "Texas, BYU to play in 2013, '14". ESPN.com. 2010-08-20. Archived from the original on 24 August 2010. Retrieved 2010-09-01. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)
• From BYU Cougars future football schedules: "Texas, BYU to play in 2013, '14". ESPN.com. August 20, 2010. Archived from the original on August 24, 2010. Retrieved 2010-09-01. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)

Reference named "Utah State Aggies":

• From BYU Cougars future football schedules: "Utah State Football Announces Three-Game Series With BYU, Resumes Series With Utah and Lists Future Non-Conference Opponents". UtahStateAggies.com. July 20, 2011. Retrieved 2011-08-20.
• From 2013 BYU Cougars football team: "Utah State Football Announces Three-Game Series With BYU, Resumes Series With Utah and Lists Future Non-Conference Opponents". UtahStateAggies.com. 2011-07-20. Retrieved 2011-08-20.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 00:41, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

New NEWS today, for future editing (exciting & AWESOME!)

Hugest recruit, and nimble on his feet. Is he going on an LDS mission first?

Headline-1: A BYU coach first noticed 410-pound Motekiai Langi playing pickup basketball

• http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/a-byu-coach-first-noticed-410-pound-motekiai-langi-playing-pickup-basketball-143425956.html

QUOTE: "His evaluation was based on defensive line coach Steve Kaufusi seeing him play a pickup game of basketball in Tonga two years ago. And he just saw a giant body that’s light on his feet and could change direction and loved working out and training. And so the day before Motekiai was leaving for his mission — he is a relative to Harvey Langi. Same last name, so I can’t trace exactly how that, I don’t know the exact relation — but he stops in at BYU before he goes to the MTC the next day." -- AstroU (talk) 16:33, 5 February 2015 (UTC) -- PS: FYI for future editing.

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Mormon Church in first sentence

I suggest that the fact that BYU is "owned by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" does not need to be in the first sentence of the article. The Notre Dame Fighting Irish football article does not mention the Catholic church, TCU Horned Frogs football does not mention their specific affiliation, and so on. I suggest removing the affiliation. Sanpitch (talk) 20:45, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

I agree. The article about the SMU Mustangs football team also does not mention its university's parent affiliation. Jodapop (talk) 21:52, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

• Seeing no objections, I will make this change. --Metamorph985 (talk) 23:45, 20 February 2022 (UTC)