Talk:Ayn Issa

Etymology

This seems to mean "spring of Jesus". What is the origin of the name? Bill (talk) 22:32, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Kurdish name

Ayn Issa is now the capital of the AANES, which gives parity to the Kurdish language. Why wouldn't we give its Kurdish name? Konli17 (talk) 17:06, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Agree, it should be changed. But this means not all kurdish controlled towns. Peacetowikied (talk) 17:12, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Even the Kurdish web site talking about Ain Issa being capital of the Administration (used in the Autonomous Administration of North and East Syria article) does not mention a Kurdish name, so adding a Kurdish name here is WP:UNDUE. Amr ibn Kulthoumعمرو بن كلثوم (talk) 18:58, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

:::Why would they? Konli17 (talk) 19:04, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Because Kurdistan24 usually puts Kurdish names at the forefront and ignores (or buries) Arabic names of towns, like they did here when mentioning Ras al-Ayn. Amr ibn Kulthoumعمرو بن كلثوم (talk) 19:21, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

:::::Perhaps, like you, they only feel Kurdish names ought to be mentioned where there's a substantial Kurdish population. But your and Kurdistan24's attitudes don't bind the rest of us. It doesn't seem like such a big deal to me to mention the Kurdish name, it's not as if I'm suggesting moving the article. I wouldn't have a problem with mentioning the Arabic name of a settlement even if no Arabs lived there. Konli17 (talk) 19:27, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Amr, why do you accuse me of inventing a Kurdish name for Ayn Issa in your edit summary? That's not very nice, nor very accurate. Konli17 (talk) 01:19, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Konli, the source you are using for this claimed Kurdish name (Mesopotamia coop) is clearly another Kurdish propaganda outlet, therefore unreliable. Amr ibn Kulthoumعمرو بن كلثوم (talk) 02:09, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

:::::::You didn't answer my question. Konli17 (talk) 02:10, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

You didn't answer my question Amr, and I have another. Why do you say mesopotomia.coop isn't a reliable source? Konli17 (talk) 22:08, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

It is obviously a Kurdish propaganda site. Amr ibn Kulthoumعمرو بن كلثوم (talk) 17:05, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

:I'm not convinced that's true, but even if it were, do you really believe they're manufacturing a Kurdish name for Ayn Issa out of whole cloth? Konli17 (talk) 17:15, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Amr? Konli17 (talk) 14:31, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

How come you can find this claimed "Kurdish name" on this mesopotamia garbage website but not on a single respected media site, or even Kurdish media sites? Besides, why in the world would be a "kurdish" name for a small town that has never had any kurdish population or connection to anything kurdish. This is simply an appropriation campaign led by PYD/PYD militia, and you are just spreading that propaganda. Amr ibn Kulthoumعمرو بن كلثوم (talk) 04:21, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

:::Why would anyone except Kurds use the Kurdish name for a town with a negligible Kurdish population? Why would you expect a town close to Kurdistan not to have a Kurdish name? What do you believe is being appropriated? Do you believe Damascus is being appropriated, because we don't refer to it here as Dimašq? Ought the city have a large Anglophone population before you could live with the current title? Konli17 (talk) 10:47, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

And how is this little town close to "Kurdistan"? Where is Kurdistan and where is its border? The Treaty of Sevres map shows that Kurdistan does not even touch the Syrian border except at Jazirat ibn Umar. Why a remote, completely Arab tiny town have importance for Kurds to give it a name? Amr ibn Kulthoumعمرو بن كلثوم (talk) 18:34, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

:::::Your last question's a good one, it would be really interesting to find that out. I reckon as you familiarise yourself with the history of the region, you'll find the Treaty of Sevres doesn't have much purchase nowadays. You didn't answer my questions very thoroughly; I'm particularly interested in hearing your views about the Damascus question. Konli17 (talk) 19:34, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Edit warring violation by Ibn Amr

Dear User:عمرو بن كلثو, I kindly encourage you to self revert, as you just made two reverts in the article, but the article is within the Syrian Civil War articles and only 1revert is allowed in such articles. If not I'll report you, and wait for the outcome for the report.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 08:56, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

The article is not with the Gs/talk notice|scwisil. Second, I have clearly explained why the content added by user Konli17 is POV-pushing using unreliable propaganda source. Amr ibn Kulthoumعمرو بن كلثوم (talk) 14:37, 6 August 2020 (UTC)