Talk:Australia women's national wheelchair basketball team at the 2012 Summer Paralympics

Latest comment: 4 years ago by Hawkeye7 in topic "British accent"
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"British accent"

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There appears to be a mistaken belief that Wikipedia is an audiobook here, in that the fact that one of the players on the team (who was born in the UK and therefore has an accent from that country) saying something about a result needs to be listed as saying it in a British accent. Surely what matters is what she said, rather than the accent she used to say it. I agree that there are mentions in other articles of people's accents, but that's usually only where it's relevant - someone's accent making lines in a film unintelligible, for example. Or do all quotes now need to indicate to the reader how the person spoke? BigHaz - Schreit mich an 00:19, 4 January 2020 (UTC)Reply

That is the case here. Normally I make or accept a change if another editor asks for it, but ask that they seek consensus when they ask for contradictory things. See the FAC review for details. Amber always comes across in her own voice to me because I know exactly what she sounds like. It is all about what we mean by "the Australian way", which is why other editors felt it was relevant here. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 00:32, 4 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
I understand that you have personal feelings about the topic, and that's fine. The thing is, though, that it doesn't make any logical sense to say "[Person] said, in a such-and-such accent" in an encyclopedia. You're welcome to insert her British accent if you want to do when you're reading the article to yourself, but it's entirely irrelevant to say that she had one. An article about Tony Grieg (the first sportsman I can think of with a distinctive accent) wouldn't mention his South African accent unless it's relevant to the topic.Indeed, in the article about him, there's an extended quote from his famous comments about "making the West Indies grovel". At no point does the article say that he said it in a South African accent, even though he patently did that. There's mention of the fact that he was indeed a South African, which made the comments rather inappropriate, but the "inserting the person's voice" is something left for the reader. Wikipedia, you'll remember, isn't a novel, so we don't need to indicate that this person has that accent, that person was hoarse, someone else had a high-pitched voice when they said things, and so on. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 00:13, 6 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
Very well, remove it then. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 21:03, 6 January 2020 (UTC)Reply