Talk:Arthur Gietzelt

Entry on Arthur Gietzelt (again)

Hi again

References 2 and 3 are also false. Even the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation said that his being a member of the Communist Party would not stand up to "close scrutiny" or "critical examination" as there isn't sound evidence. That's because he wasn't a member of the Communist Party.

So yet again a contributor has been allowed to add lies to his entry.

I again ask that the offending sentence be removed.

Thank you

Dale Gietzelt — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.165.171.22 (talk) 08:37, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Stuart Macintyre says he was a member of the party (The Party p 190).--Jack Upland (talk) 03:45, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

See February 19, 2022 article by Troy Bramston in The Australian https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/the-double-allegiance-of-a-secret-communist-operative/news-story/5d21c7b338269518738d02ad62fba9bc?amp

Article Title: "The double allegiance of a secret communist operative"

Subtitle: "Arthur Gietzelt, the long-time Labor senator and minister in the Hawke government, always denied he’d been a secret member of the Communist Party. The evidence, however, is irrefutable."

Article excerpts:

   "Mark Aarons, whose family ran the CPA for years, wrote in his book, The Family File (2010), that Gietzelt was indeed a key operative for the CPA."

   "NSW Labor secretaries Peter Westerway, Graham Richardson and Stephen Loosley have also gone on the record about Gietzelt’s dual party membership."

   "Uren, a Left faction colleague of Gietzelt and a minister in the Whitlam and Hawke governments, believed he had been a CPA member."

   "ASIO director-general Harvey Barnett" said “He was probably a CPA member as far back as 1940 and had been on the Sydney District Committee between 1952 and 1955. He operated under the party name of ‘Arthur James’. CPA members were urged to keep his identity secret.”

   "Barnett, incredibly, told Hawke that Gietzelt could still be a member of the CPA in 1983." 

   "Now, the truth is out. It cannot be denied by Gietzelt’s family or friends with credibility. The evidence is undeniable. It is time for Labor to recognise his treachery. Gietzelt was disloyal and deceitful to the party that gave him almost everything in his professional life. That betrayal is a bitter pill for Labor’s true believers to swallow."

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