Talk:Apollo (DC Comics)
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Stub creation
editI just created this quickly to fix some dead links from the front-page listing of Superman. If someone who follows Stormwatch and The Authority more than I do wants to flesh it out, that would be great. Detail needed on origin (created by Bendix, but I'm not clear on who exactly Bendix is or why Apollo was created), relationship with Midnighter and perhaps some issue names/numbers for his initial appearances. Harmil 11:43, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
He's more than just gay
editIt's seems like this entire article mostly focuses on his and midnighter's relationship. I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure that there is more to the character than being gay 24.218.65.219 22:28, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Superman powers?
editI may be going out on a limb here, and im no Superman expert, but im pretty sure he does NOT get his powers from the sun
- Both Superman and Apollo have been explicitly described in their comics as deriving their powers (or rather the charge for them) from the sun. It is true that the origin and nature of Superman's powers has shifted over the years, though (first they were simply native to his race, then they were supposed to be caused or boosted by the different gravity, then finally the solar explanation settled). Read the article for more info.
- The difference between Superman and Apollo is that Superman's powers are part of his Kryptonian makeup and brought out by yellow sunlight, while Apollo has been enhanced (in vague and unspecified ways) and these enhancements are powered by solar radiation. The basic idea of being powered by the sun is the same.
- Just to add some more concrete evidence see Wikipedia's entry on "Superman's Powers" for more concrete examples. Or you can watch the CM's Smallville for other examples. Or even go to the comics (The Final Night saga, Our Worlds at War, Birthright, The Man of Steel, Superman in Space) which have dozens of references to his need for a yellow sun.
- Superman does derive his powers from solar energy, but the references in this article that said that he does not act like a battery, as Apollo does, were wrong. While he's not as directly charged/discharged as Apollo is, he still requires to be "charged" by the sun to function, and when he depletes his solar energy stores (as when he died, and then returned), his power levels are sensibly lower.MaGnUs was here!
- I've tidied up the 'Powers' section and simplified the comparison with Superman per your comments. We compared the two characters in the first place because Apollo is, superficially, a Superman pastiche. They both get power from the sun - that's about the extent of the instructive comparison, which otherwise tells the reader little about Apollo specifically. There's nothing special, or especially interesting, about how he differs from Superman in respect of his power source. So I've cut it out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.21.98.233 (talk) 20:45, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
Canopy
editFrom the volume 2 section: "This also marks the appearance of the infamous canopied four-poster bed. In the most intimate scene between Apollo and The Midnighter yet, the pair wake at dawn in their bed on the Carrier. Some fans found this scene objectionable, especially on account of the canopy." Maybe I'm just dense, but I can't figure out what's so objectionable about a bed having a canopy. This should be rewritten to be clearer. Jimpartame 13:36, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
- I agree. I think the last part may have been written by a homophobe. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.244.131.147 (talk • contribs) 23:12, 13 October 2006.
- Please, refrain from personal attacks on Wikipedia. If you feel that an uncited sentence is nonsense, then that's really all that we need to deal with. Speculating as to the character of the person who wrote it isn't going to do anyone any good. -Harmil 04:09, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
Apollo's power level VS Superman's
editWhile it is pretty clear that Apollo is a powerhouse, his strength speed and invulvernability doesn't surpass Superman's. Both can become super-charged when getting closer and closer to the sun, both have vast strength and invulnerability. If the article in question is only taking into consideration the power levels of Superman immediately after the crisis on infinite earths, I would agree. But in the last 5-10 years Superman's power levels have once again risen to unbelievable levels that may even dwarf Apollo's. Apollo is considered a Majestic class superhuman, but when Majestic crossed over into the mainstream DC universe, he was just a poor-man's Superman. To take it one step further, Apollo and the Authority couldn't even handle Captain Atom, who has traditionally been seen as weaker than the Man of Steel. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 192.139.221.204 (talk • contribs) 13:07, 1 December 2006.
- I'm personally of the opinion that a comparison between the magnitude of the powers of one fictional character to another is relatively pointless, especially as both continue to be developed and can be safely predicted to change over time. -Harmil 20:13, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
What issue was the wedding?
editIn what issue did Apollo and Midnighter get married?
- Vol. 1, issue 29. The last two pages. Armaced (talk) 16:15, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
In-universe perspective
editI've just given the article a pretty comprehensive reframing after it was given the "In-universe perspective" tag. I think these edits remove the problem, so I've now removed it, but please let's talk here if you disagree. There are now a few remaining gaps in coverage of character history:
- Captain Atom: Armaggedon and the WSU reboot, and subsequent cross-overs and events
- That mini where Winter comes back and Apollo traps him in the sun, the name of which I temporarily forget
- Apollo in the Midnighter solo series (very occasionally)
- Apollo in Kev
It would be good to get some appropriately-framed summaries of the character's part in these stories. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gonzonoir (talk • contribs) 09:35, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Mentioning of Apollo in Queer As Folk
editIt will be nice to mention that in main article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.110.198.44 (talk) 19:03, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
Title
editThe Title should be change to Apollo (Wildstorm comics)
DC and MArvel Both Have character's named Apollo. In fact DC has at least 2. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.173.224.31 (talk) 16:22, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
- Well, this Apollo is pretty darned more famouse then the other two. Lots42 (talk) 16:41, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
Flashpoint
editMaybe I'm just being slow, but I don't see any link between Flashpoint's Neil Sinclair and Wildstorm's Apollo that's anything other than speculation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.9.42.70 (talk) 21:12, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
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