Talk:Angular (web framework)

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Thank you. The Transhumanist 01:06, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

Criticism section

The user 24.70.212.226 added a criticism section on both this article and React, their are identical. I removed this section because it is false, opinionated and unsourced, examples :

- Use of Typescript : typescript is a Superset above Javascript that generates Javascript with zero TypeScript syntax. The source code for Angular is Typescript, but when deployed it is 100% Javascript. 24.70.212.226 talks about learning typescript in order to use Angular...

- Separation of concerns : well angular allows a dev to remove any ref to html in the logic of the javascript code through data bindings, that's called separation of concerns. 24.70.212.226 says otherwise.

- He links to https://stackoverflow.com/unanswered/tagged/angular 35K (unanswered questions) to demonstrate that angular has poor support, that's a number not a ratio, just look at https://stackoverflow.com/unanswered/tagged/jquery 240K unanswered questions but 24.70.212.226 did not copy paste this section on the JQuery article.

He reverted my deletion of his section, could an admin intervene?

SamiOnWiki —Preceding undated comment added 23:49, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

Well, I wondered why there was no criticism section in this article about a web technology that obscures (or totally blanks) the markup that constitutes a web-page. I for one would like to read the source of any page I view; it's been a way for devs to learn how to do web tricks since 1996 and earlier, and I find it objectionable when web hackers obscure their code. It is striking that WP records no objections, neither in criticism sections nor in Talk pages.

I've never used React, and I don't know what versions of Angular I was exposed to (I was told it was called "Angular", so I guess it was AngularJS). The AngularJS article also lacks a criticism section. Surprise, surprise: there is no criticism section on the React page, either. Can it really be true that there are no valid grounds for criticising these mechanisms for creating completely opaque web pages? MrDemeanour (talk) 15:35, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

I would like to add a high relevance external link

We would like to add a high relevance external link to websites made with Angular 5. The page consists of a review of different categories of websites made with Angular 5. This further emphasizes a key fact that Angular 5 is production ready and big players are using it. We think that the page gives a weak presentation of Angular 5 and this link would cement the fact that it is production ready and big industry names are using it. This is the link Websites made with Angular 5 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.248.188.245 (talk) 05:34, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Who is this "we"? Is it not possible for "big industry names" to acquire a proper Wikipedia account, and say who they are?

Incidentally, I note that whois says "RAZORJEEP.COM" is not a thing. And I can't guess from that name who it might be representing. So I seem to be reading advocacy from an IP contributor (a contributor that is unnamed and shows barely any contribution history, most of which concerns India, and none of which is concerned with software or web development), referencing a URL with a domain-name that doesn't exist. How am I supposed to evaluate something like that?

Ah - it seems that the IP address is assigned to Accenture. Isn't that the company formerly known as Arthur Andersen, the Big Five accounting firm that was convicted of criminal charges in connection with the Enron frauds, and was promptly renamed? (I note that the US Supreme Court reverted that conviction; but the rest of us still think AA acted corruptly).

Amusingly, this editor's first-ever edit has exactly the same summary as this one (his second): "I would like to add a high relevance external link". The first is a comment on a talk page for a user that doesn't exist any more. Does that remind you of Arthur Andersen at all? MrDemeanour (talk) 16:11, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Merger proposal with AngularJS

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

Result was don't merge these are two separate projects

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I believe since AngularJS (the non typescript version of Angular) has been phased out, and since the two pages largely overlap, that AngularJS should be merged into this page. Bepvte (talk) 17:56, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

It looks like AngularJS has much more content. Should this page be merged into that one, then renamed to Angular? Is that typical or allowed on Wikipedia? I'm a little bit new so any input is appreciated. Bepvte (talk) 18:08, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

• Merge – Both pages arguably cover the same topic, just different versions. A merge absolutely seems appropriate, so long as all the relevant content is copied and the article details the version differences. As AngularJS seems to no longer be in use as a name, I'd say it's appropriate for it to be merged into this article, rather than vice versa. — Katie <3 (talk) 23:18, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

• These are actually completely different projects worked on separately. I think it would probably cause a lot of confusion if both pages were merged together -Cody

• I use both Angular and AngularJS for my work. This is not a case of a project that just dropped the "JS" from the end of the name. They are two separate projects that Google unfortunately gave similar names. Merging these articles would cause a lot of confusion, especially among users who don't already understand the differences between the two. StevenHirlston (talk) 20:49, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

• Another voice from a developer: no, do not merge! Different things! That merge proposal seems to be based on a lack of knowledge about the issue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.201.226.66 (talk) 21:20, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

• Don't Merge These are completely different projects, that just happen to share a common ancestor and name for marketing reasons. Closing merge.Ethanpet113 (talk) 13:15, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

What is it used for?

The article tells readers what Angular is, but not what it is for. An additional section to cover this, ideally with a simple explanation of a use case, would be great. Thanks. FreeFlow99 (talk) 17:22, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Focus on what it is and what it is used for

The history section and the comparison with AngularJS take up most of the article in its current shape. Both are totally uninteresting for a reader that wants to know what Angular is, and what it is used for. The history section should be removed or scaled down to a simple table. I don't think release dates have the required notability for an encyclopedia.

HelgeStenstrom (talk) 13:18, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Is Angular really a "web framework"?

In contrast to AngularJS (which clearly was a (client-side) (JS) web framework), Angular defines itself as a "development platform" (compare https://angular.io/guide/what-is-angular). This corresponds with the fact that Angular itself never "runs on client-side"; rather the files which were generated by Angular (on developer side) run on client side.

Do you agree? I think it would be important to make this difference clear.

So a possible suggestion could be: "Angular (web development platform)" S3rvus (talk) 14:24, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

Framework

Hi I am looking for what is Angular and find framework. If I go to framework i must to go to other page to search other thing. I want to know, i think this things are writed by programers or people with strange empathy, or people who not explain for people who dont know any thing about topic. Catch me? ok. slam. 88.10.28.218 (talk) 14:13, 11 April 2023 (UTC)