Talk:Anadia, Portugal

Requested move

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The result of the proposal was discussion moved. See below. --BDD (talk) 17:39, 2 April 2013 (UTC) (non-admin closure)

Anadia Municipality, Portugal → Anadia, Portugal – The clarification "Municipality" is unnecessary. Vivaelcelta {talk  · contributions} 02:26, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Moved to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Portuguese geography § Naming convention discussing RE:Municipalities

Widen discussion to whole category: this article is a part of the Category:Municipalities of Portugal, containing 251 articles, of which approx. 191 are in the form "Foo Municipality" or "Foo Municipality, Portugal". It looks as if this suggestion - which FAIK may well be a very good one, but I don't know the background - might need wider consideration across the whole class of articles, rather than picking them off individually.Jsmith1000 (talk) 19:04, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

I will move the other articles when I have time. --Vivaelcelta {talk  · contributions} 02:05, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

This subject is specified in the WP:WikiProject Portuguese geography page. I agree completely, the city-municipality dichotomy has got to be eliminated and both series of articles merged. The problem that exists is that, in many cases, there is a article about city X, and an almost similar article about municipality X. I refer you to Sintra Municipality and Sintra, Portugal. Most, if not all the municipality articles, under the Category:Municipalities of Portugal were actually created by a known and discredited sock-puppeteer (User:Tobias Conradi), without consensus, ages ago (or in this case 2009). Content was then ported to the "Municipality" article and a distinction established that the "true name" functioned as a "city" article, while the "Municipality" article took on all the other municipal-wide functions. The reality is that treating those articles differently perpetuated a misconception that Portugal consists of cites, towns and villages with their own mayors or reaves, when in reality it is structured on extra-territorial regions of municipalities and parishes with their own executives and assemblies. The notion of political power of "cities" does not exist, since this power is invested in the municipalities and parishes. Geographically, cities, towns and villages can extend over the territorial jurisdiction of multiple municipalities and parishes (those entities responsible for governing their constituents). As a direct contributor to these types of articles, the best form of resolving all the Portuguese administrative division articles, is integrating the "municipality"-titled articles and merging them under their proper/simple namespaces. I support these types of name changes. Also, I suggest, even as there are few people working on content-development on the political geography of Portugal, this discussion should be duplicated at WP:WikiProject Portuguese geography. I will copy it there. ^{ruben jc} ZEORYMER (talk) 09:30, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

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