Talk:American Revolutionary War
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Discussion at WT:MOSCAPS § Founding Fathers of the United States
editYou are invited to join the discussion at WT:MOS § Founding Fathers of the United States on whether the expression "founding fathers" should be in lower or upper case. Thanks. Allreet (talk) 22:30, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 2 March 2024
editIn the first paragraph,where it says: " 2600:100A:B10F:2653:0:55:72EA:3901 (talk) 20:38, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- OK, for some reason that didn't come out right. The sentence reads: "This lead to the Treaty of Paris." The verb should be changed to "led" because "lead" is present tense. 2600:100A:B10F:2653:0:55:72EA:3901 (talk) 20:41, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Done, good catch, thank you very much. Randy Kryn (talk) 01:48, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
Omissions
editThis article gives short-shrift to the Sullivan Expedition of 1779 against the Iroquois Indians. The campaign occupied more than one third of the total number of Continental army soldiers and has been described as the most important military campaign of 1779. It other words, it wasn't a sideshow to the main events. I'll get around to remedying this problem -- if somebody else doesn't. Smallchief (talk) 11:38, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- You need first to show that it is seen that way in reliable sources. And how many continental soldiers were there during the campaign? TFD (talk) 21:25, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
Someone forgot to list the Netherlands outside of the infobox
editThe “Dutch Republic” (The United Provinces of the Netherlands, officially the Republic of the Seven United Netherlands) is listed in the infobox as a “co-belligerent” for the United States alongside the Kingdom of Spain, whereas the Kingdom of France is listed in a different category alongside the Colonies (why is that, by the way?), but the second paragraph of the article begins with “During the war, American Patriot forces had the support of France and Spain, while the British and Loyalist forces hired Hessian soldiers from Germany for assistance.”
Why are only France and Spain listed there and not the Netherlands? It seems like they were just as involved as Spain was, and I think this is something people really need to be informed about, as it seems so little-known. Sorry for going off-topic, but I just heard a song earlier today referencing the French and Spanish helping the U.S. get independence, making no mention of the Dutch. It just seems like a really glaring omission, since they’re the only other country listed. 174.243.48.32 (talk) 03:19, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Co-belligerence is waging war against a common enemy with or without a formal alliance. In this case, the Fourth Anglo-Dutch War (1780-1784) was one of the theatres of the American Revolutionary War. In October 1782, the Dutch and the Americans also signed "a treaty of amity and commerce". Dimadick (talk) 13:33, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- I see the article has been edited to list the Dutch Republic as “limited support” now, whatever that means. Also, France and Spain are listed together as the only “co-belligerents”, so France having a greater role than Spain is no longer implied. Does that seem right to you? The article doesn’t seem to reflect what I’ve read from other sources, like these:
- https://www.rochester.edu/newscenter/three-things-you-didnt-know-about-the-american-revolution/ “The Americans, with help from Spain, the Netherlands and France, defeated the British during the American Revolutionary War.”
- https://www.ducksters.com/history/american_revolution/american_allies_french.php “The primary allies were France, Spain, and the Netherlands with France giving the most support.” 2600:100A:B1C1:A54:41A7:DD71:D01A:F903 (talk) 08:26, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- The article as it stands now is largely a result of a small cabal of editors with a very narrow American focused point of view, which they have injected into the article. These editors asserted a viewpoint that nothing that happened outside of continental north america was part of the war, which is blatantly against what reliable sources say. The article itself accordingly blatantly violates NPOV. For example, listing France as a "co-belligerent" rather than a principal combatant is ridiculous. I have just changed the infobox to add France and Spain as principal belligerents and to add the Netherlands as a Co-belligerent. The French were directly allied with America and were heavily engaged in combat from the point of their entry in the war, until the end of it.XavierGreen (talk) 16:01, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
Fort Nassau
edit"Hopkins' troops then marched on Fort Nassau."
Wrong Fort Nassau. Serenaeta (talk) 15:28, 5 July 2024 (UTC)