Talk:American Revolutionary War

Latest comment: 17 days ago by TylerBurden in topic Semi-protected edit request on 5 November 2024
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Someone forgot to list the Netherlands outside of the infobox

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The “Dutch Republic” (The United Provinces of the Netherlands, officially the Republic of the Seven United Netherlands) is listed in the infobox as a “co-belligerent” for the United States alongside the Kingdom of Spain, whereas the Kingdom of France is listed in a different category alongside the Colonies (why is that, by the way?), but the second paragraph of the article begins with “During the war, American Patriot forces had the support of France and Spain, while the British and Loyalist forces hired Hessian soldiers from Germany for assistance.”

Why are only France and Spain listed there and not the Netherlands? It seems like they were just as involved as Spain was, and I think this is something people really need to be informed about, as it seems so little-known. Sorry for going off-topic, but I just heard a song earlier today referencing the French and Spanish helping the U.S. get independence, making no mention of the Dutch. It just seems like a really glaring omission, since they’re the only other country listed. 174.243.48.32 (talk) 03:19, 28 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Co-belligerence is waging war against a common enemy with or without a formal alliance. In this case, the Fourth Anglo-Dutch War (1780-1784) was one of the theatres of the American Revolutionary War. In October 1782, the Dutch and the Americans also signed "a treaty of amity and commerce". Dimadick (talk) 13:33, 28 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
I see the article has been edited to list the Dutch Republic as “limited support” now, whatever that means. Also, France and Spain are listed together as the only “co-belligerents”, so France having a greater role than Spain is no longer implied. Does that seem right to you? The article doesn’t seem to reflect what I’ve read from other sources, like these:
https://www.rochester.edu/newscenter/three-things-you-didnt-know-about-the-american-revolution/ “The Americans, with help from Spain, the Netherlands and France, defeated the British during the American Revolutionary War.”
https://www.ducksters.com/history/american_revolution/american_allies_french.php “The primary allies were France, Spain, and the Netherlands with France giving the most support.” 2600:100A:B1C1:A54:41A7:DD71:D01A:F903 (talk) 08:26, 18 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
The article as it stands now is largely a result of a small cabal of editors with a very narrow American focused point of view, which they have injected into the article. These editors asserted a viewpoint that nothing that happened outside of continental north america was part of the war, which is blatantly against what reliable sources say. The article itself accordingly blatantly violates NPOV. For example, listing France as a "co-belligerent" rather than a principal combatant is ridiculous. I have just changed the infobox to add France and Spain as principal belligerents and to add the Netherlands as a Co-belligerent. The French were directly allied with America and were heavily engaged in combat from the point of their entry in the war, until the end of it.XavierGreen (talk) 16:01, 24 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Doesn't that give the impression that it was primarily a war between France and Britain rather than between Britain and its rebellious colonies? TFD (talk) 11:17, 27 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Congress agreed to which treaty?

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In the 2nd paragraph of the "Foreign Intervention" section, the last sentence states "Congress agreed to the treaty with reluctance..." What treaty are you referring to? Amardesich (talk) 20:12, 3 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 31 August 2024

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Can someone edit the page for the commanders of the battles to each have a separate line for each name, as is routine for all other Wikipedia articles for military battles and skirmishes, and to add the   symbol for David Wooster on the Revolutionary side as he was killed in action at this battle. 2603:9001:4700:8AD3:6579:7A1B:3FE1:EEAF (talk) 04:18, 31 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Done (assuming you meant to post this at Battle of Ridgefield), I made the requested changes on that page. Jamedeus (talk) 05:25, 31 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Mysore?

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Mysore Fought in Second Anglo-Mysore War Which was a part of the Fourth Anglo-Dutch War, which was part of the American Revolutionary War. 2405:201:200F:71E7:39C8:DF:F2C7:E7F8 (talk) 11:10, 16 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

The Fourth Anglo-Dutch War occurred simultaneously in connection to, but as part of the American Revolutionary War. Even if it was, Mysore's contribution would not have been substantial as to be listed in the infobox or anywhere else in the article, frankly. Remsense ‥  11:13, 16 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
the mysorean rockets captured from the Mysore wars, were modified and use in the American Revolutionary War, which are now part of the one of the anthems of America.
Also Mysore had a great amount of political influence on founding fathers on america ,especially on the anti-britsh sentiments 2405:201:200F:71E7:39C8:DF:F2C7:E7F8 (talk) 11:21, 16 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
That's all fine and should be mentioned in other more relevant articles, but do not merit mention on this one. Remsense ‥  11:23, 16 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Should I atleast mention it in the "American Revolution" one tho? Considering Mysore did influence the founding fathers. 49.43.33.84 (talk) 11:49, 16 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Do you have a reliable source to that effect? Remsense ‥  11:50, 16 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
I will add a reliable source don't worry 2405:201:200F:71E7:39C8:DF:F2C7:E7F8 (talk) 12:10, 16 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Also any idea why did my IP just change ? In the above above reply? 2405:201:200F:71E7:39C8:DF:F2C7:E7F8 (talk) 12:10, 16 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
That would be dependent on your own internet situation. If you would like such things to remain private, I recommend creating an account. Remsense ‥  12:13, 16 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
The Second Anglo-Mysore War was certainly a part of the same global conflict that erupted as a result of the American Revolution. Mysore should be listed as a co-belligerent, since that's what the very definition of a co-belligerent is, a party that fights on the same side as another in a war without being formally allied to it. Mysore had much more involvement in the war than many of the other parties listed in the infobox, such as most of the indian tribes, the Canadian regiments or the Florida colonies.XavierGreen (talk) 20:55, 16 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 5 November 2024

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WhiteToast1 (talk) 19:20, 5 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

May I request to edit this Wikipedia page for alternate history ideas this is not related to vandalism.

  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. TylerBurden (talk) 19:53, 5 November 2024 (UTC)Reply