Talk:Aleksei Brusilov
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"A firm monarchist at heart, but a patriot in practice"
editIf this phrase is to be reinserted, it will need more than just a citation. Who says that a monarchist can not be a patriot? They are not mutually exclusive, are they?--Barbatus 14:57, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
- I didn't mean to say there was any contradiction in calling him a patriot. I only thought it was odd that he was both a monarchist and also in favor of the Tsar's abdication.--Jayanta Sen
- I know. My remark was addressed not to you, but to those who would like to put that wording back. But even being in favor of the abdication is not something a monarchist can not do. One might try to save the monarchy by the removal of the unpopular monarch, wouldn't you agree? (I recall the Brits did something like that a few centuries ago.)--Barbatus 16:09, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
- Hello Barbatus, Thanks for your reply. I have reinserted "patriotic". If you feel that there is evidence (and possibly cites) showing that he was a "monarchist", then please go ahead and put that back in too. Even at his advanced age, he seemed to have taken on the job of advising the Red Army. JS 19:03, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
- I know. My remark was addressed not to you, but to those who would like to put that wording back. But even being in favor of the abdication is not something a monarchist can not do. One might try to save the monarchy by the removal of the unpopular monarch, wouldn't you agree? (I recall the Brits did something like that a few centuries ago.)--Barbatus 16:09, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
- Frankly, I don't know much of Brusilov's biography and political affiliations (the easiest way is to check the Russian version of the article ... and my turf is ancient history). The thing is, though, that if he indeed was a monarchist (very likely), he (as many others) went on to serve the new government not because he turned bolshevik all of a sudden, but precisely because he was a patriot. See what I mean?--Barbatus 20:34, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
- ... I don't believe it! There's no article on Brusilov in Russian Wiki! Shame, shame, shame ...--Barbatus 20:38, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
- Well, now there's at least a miserable stub.--Barbatus 03:36, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for the interesting article on Brusilov in English Wiki. My remark is also on Brusilov's monarchism. Why all of you are sure that he was a monarchist? I read much about Brusilov as well as his own memoirs (in Russian), and there are no statements might indicating him so. On the contrary, he wrote in his memoirs: "By the begining of the 20th century, the monarchy as a form of government had become out-of-date" (I am not sure for the exact words but the meaning is like this). Actually, I don't think he was anti-monarchist but he was rather critical to the monarchy (at least in Russia) and in particular to the Nicolai II. But you're quite write that his backing of the Nicolai's abdication did not mean the backing of the liquidation of the monarchy in general. After the Nicolai's abdication, the army started to swear to Grand Duke Mikhail, and nobody realaized at that moment that it was the end of monarchy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nebosklon (talk • contribs) 09:55, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
Wounded and hospitalised
editSometime in 1916, he was wounded and hospitalized, and there is quite a poignant photograph of him in hospital, with his wife sitting beside the bed. Details (and pic) could be of interest. Valetude (talk) 23:10, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
Brusilov was not wounded whenever in 1916. He was wounded during revolutionary events in Moscow at the end of 1917. Maybe, it's a mistake about the photo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nebosklon (talk • contribs) 10:00, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
Appeal to all former officers
editIt is not quite correct to say that "Brusilov publised... an appeal". This appeal published in "Pravda" was signed by a numbder of persons (Lenin, Trotskiy and others) including Brusilov. But Brusilov in his memoirs insists that he had never signed this appeal (there is a discussion about it in Russian Wiki). As he writes, they asked him to sign the appeal but he didn't do that. It is not quite clear whether he refused or took some time "for thinking" but soon he "saw with horror" this appeal published with his name. We don't know how it was in reality but the Brusilov's version is quite possible for those times. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nebosklon (talk • contribs) 11:59, 28 December 2016 (UTC)