Talk:Ale's Stones
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editI just read an article in DN about a recent phony (re)discovery of a megalithic site where the expert interviewed claims that Ale's Stones were restored without proper examinations of the exact original position of the stones. I think this would be relevant to mention in the article, but using a more precise source.
Peter Isotalo 20:39, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
- Peter, the "restoration" (where the stones were carelessly raised and the soil around them bulldozed) happened in 1956 [1]. Some stones outside the ship setting, shown in older photographs and sketches, were apparantly carted away. If you find the time to write about it, you could perhaps illustrate the section with photographs of the pre-restoration position of the stones, which should now be in the public domain (some were published in 1914). The famous sketch by C.G.G. Hilfelings from 1777, showing the stones' original position, [2], [3], is perhaps already in commons. I'll check. Short on time though, so I'll have to leave the writing about the brutal "excavation" methods of the 1950s to someone else. Best, Pia (talk) 20:00, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
- I put the image up on the commons: [4]. I have also added it to the swedish article, but the english one requies some more work. Mossig (talk) 18:40, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
Contradictory dates of creation
editThe first paragraph says that it's been dated to 500 AD at the end of the nordic iron age. Later in the article it says 600 CE/AD and the referenced source calls it the early iron age. The C14 data may be contradictory because of error bars or other reasons but that's not a reason to confuse the reader. I'm not a historian. Like the average reader I have no idea about the subject and in the end choose to read the article at http://www.raa.se/cms/extern/en/places_to_visit/our_historical_sites/ales_stenar.html instead. Ypps (talk) 17:21, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
- Aha, that inconsistency! Fixed! (I thought you meant the one: 600 CE vs. 6000 BC.) Mossig (talk) 18:44, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- Yes it makes sense now. The Swedish NE encyclopedia tells me the Swedish iron age is taken to be (~450 BC - ~1050 CE). I suppose the one who wrote the www.raa.se article used a different definition of the iron age period to get it to be early iron age, or that they made a mistake.Ypps (talk) 05:15, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
What is the weight of the stones?
editThe English Wikipedia says up to 1.8 tonnes, but there are a lot of websites (including the Scandinavian wikipedia sites) stating approximately 5 tonnes. I haven't been able to figure out what's right. Anybody got a correct figure? Azazel12345 (talk) 11:31, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- The figure presumably comes from here [5] which gives a range from 500 to 1800 kg. I can't find any sources (in the Scandinavian articles of elsewhere) that gives the large number. Mikenorton (talk) 13:48, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Picture title
editThe title under the picture reads "Ale's Stones at Kåseberga, around ten kilometres southeast of Ystad.", but 10 km SE of Ystad is in the Baltic Sea. Suggest changing it to read east-southeast or east, but not southeast.76.88.1.215 (talk) 16:10, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
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