Talk:Alí Domínguez

Daily Mail

According to the Daily Mail, several of his friends/family are speaking exclusively to them. Which puts us in a tricky spot if true. Initial report here. Kingsif (talk) 02:18, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Items currently only found in DM, which are more questionable than sibling numbers:

• he "was last heard from after he sent a voice note via WhatsApp at 6pm local time and was last seen active on the social media platform at 6.50pm" Announcement from PROVEA EC
• he "was a member of the communications department at the Bolivarian University of Venezuela"
• he "was found lying unconscious on a highway by firemen - ND says it was a regular police patrol of highways that found him Kingsif (talk) 02:45, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

and was taken to Domingo Luciani Hospital on Friday" Report from doctor EC

• he had "suffered a traumatic brain injury"
• "Bolivarian National Police reportedly refused to register missing persons report on his family’s behalf and instructed them to reach out to intelligence officials since they deemed it to be a politically sensitive case" PROVEA again EC
• he "was brutally beaten a year ago after denouncing corrupt officials at the university and received death threats soon after" - possibly a jump in logic from known facts, unless there are reports of this other attack Also in EC
• his "friends and family members put together a social media campaign Sunday, using the hashtag - #QueAparezcaAlíDomínguez [#HopeAlíDomínguezReappears." - this seems to preclude him being found on Friday... there must also be evidence of the tweets somewhere else. Reported by Efecto Cocuyo EC
• "His brother, Jesús Domínguez, made several attempts to search forhim at the hospital Sunday and Monday but security staff repeatedly turned them away because they didn't have his name in the system. Jesus Domínguez eventually identified his brother at the hospital whenb his sibling was in a coma." - ??? Of the family, the DM at least doesn't claim that Jesus spoke to them. Also PROVEA and EC EC

And, in the article:

• "According to news station VPI TV, Domínguez, the second oldest among seven other siblings, went 15 hours without receiving any medical attention" - did VPI TV mention the siblings or just the time? Can we find this report? Kingsif (talk) 02:25, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

VPI tweet shown in El Comercio, only mentions time. Kingsif (talk) 02:34, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

sources

that have not been bled dry Kingsif (talk) 03:57, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

• https://informe21.com/actualidad/ali-dominguez-habria-fallecido-en-el-hospital-domingo-luciani
• https://www.el-carabobeno.com/nicmer-evans-asesinato-del-periodista-ali-dominguez-fue-una-retaliacion-politica/
• http://www.caraotadigital.net/sucesos/relato-periodista-asesinato-ali-dominguez/
• https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr62UlcYk9A
• https://www.eltubazodigital.com/gente-de-mi-pueblo/familiares-denuncian-desaparicion-del-periodista-ali-dominguez/2019/03/03/
• https://www.eltubazodigital.com/featured/doce-claves-sobre-la-muerte-del-periodista-ali-dominguez/2019/03/06/

• Informe21 is not a reliable source. https://informe21.com/acerca SandyGeorgia (Talk) 13:58, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
• Nor is eltubazodigital. Sandy Georgia (Talk) 14:03, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. This was a dump for ones I haven't properly read yet (except Carabobeno, because I don't know how to incorporate Evans' statements) Kingsif (talk) 14:07, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Suggest move

I suggest moving this article to Death of Alí Domínguez, per WP:BLP1E. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:13, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Officially proposing? He's not the most high profile journalist, but the death wouldn't have made such waves if there wasn't other notability, like leading a political faction and being a dissident opponent of an entire university. They're quite notable things that shouldn't be ignored, even if there's not much on them. Also, I started the Fernando Alban page as "Death of Fernando Alban", but that quickly got moved to a bio because just being a politician gave him that notability - Dominguez was a political leader, shouldn't that reasoning be maintained? Kingsif (talk) 20:23, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Two wrongs don't make a right ? Fernando Albán Salazar did meet Wikipedia notability criteria before his murder, and that article should have been at the bio rather than the event. But Alí Domínguez did not, and his article should be at an event page, per WP:BLP1E. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:26, 9 March 2019 (UTC)