Talk:African Giant

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:African Giant/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: MarioSoulTruthFan (talk · contribs) 16:12, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Infobox

• Needs alt

What you mean by "needs alt"?  Versace1608  ^{Wanna Talk?} 13:46, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Alternative title for the album cover. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 14:39, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

• Remove the year the album was recorded as that year mentiones only one of the producers, Kel P and not the others.

Although I object to this. There's no reason to suspect that he lied about recording the album between August and November 2018.  Versace1608  ^{Wanna Talk?} 13:46, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

I didn't say he did, I don't understad why are you stating that! I'm just saying there those dates were the recordings with Kel P. I have no idea when he recored with other producers. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 14:39, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

• New comment Add the release formats to the infobox, digital download, streaming...

Format is not a field of Template:Infobox album. I have gone through several GA and FA articles and I do not see it listed in the infobox. I also added it and I got a warning while previewing my edit. Is there something I'm missing man? Kindly tell me how you do this because I don't even see the format field in any of the Bruno Mars albums you've promoted to GA.  Versace1608  ^{Wanna Talk?} 20:24, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I was revewing a couple of songs and I got everything mixed up. Discard my comment. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 20:29, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

• New comment Why Afro-fusion? Where s the source, one song doesn't make the genre of the album

Afro-fusion is another name for Afrobeats. Burna Boy calls his music Afro-fusion and the title and content of the Pitchfork article reflects that. I replaced Afro-fusion with Afrobeats because I found a reliable source explicitly listing Afrobeats as one of the album's genres; I added the source to the composition section.  Versace1608  ^{Wanna Talk?} 20:24, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 20:33, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Lead

• This looks like a supermarket grocery list. Needs to be re-written
• Spaceship Entertainment, Bad Habit, Atlantic Records and Warner Music. → not all labes on ciattion given (see below)
• It was produced primarily by Kel P, along with production from P2J, Benjamin Zill, Mr Kleb, DJDS, GMK, Chopstix, TMXO, Dre Skull, Skrillex, Levi Lennox and IO. The album features guest appearances from Zlatan, Jorja Smith, Jeremih, Serani, M.anifest, Damian Marley, Angelique Kidjo, Future and YG. The album was supported by six singles: "Gbona", "On the Low", Killin Dem", "Dangote", "Anybody" and "Pull Up". → It was produced primarily by Kel P, along with production from P2J, Dre Skull and Skrillex, among others. The album features guest appearances from Jorja Smith, Jeremih, Damian Marley and Future, among others. The album was supported by six singles, including "On the Low", which won Viewers' Choice at the 2020 Soundcity MVP Awards Festival, "Killin Dem", which won Song of the Year for Listeners' Choice for at the 2020 Soundcity MVP Awards Festival, among other awards; and "Anybody", which Burna Boy performed at Jimmy Kimmel Live!
• It received positive reviews from music critics, → It received generally favorable reviews reviews from music critics,
• The album was supported by six singles → they seem to be eight according to some sources (see below)
• Add two/three year-end lists positions, some information regarding the tour

Background and recording

• African Giant between → African Giant with Kel P between
• Kel P → The latter
• he met Burna Boy → he met the singer
• they Boy spent → they spent
• hotel in Ghana.[1] "On the Low", → hotel in Ghana. The tracks "On the Low",
• The first reference should be in the end of the "same day" sentence only
• The album was produced primarily by Kel P, along with production from: P2J, Benjamin Zill, Mr Kleb, DJDS, GMK, Chopstix, TMXO, Dre Skull, Skrillex, Levi Lennox and IO. It features guest appearances from: Zlatan Ibile, Jorja Smith, Jeremih, Serani, M.anifest, Damian Marley, Angelique Kidjo, Future and YG → The album was produced primarily by Kel P, along with production from Benjamin Zill, Dre Skull and Skrillex, among others. It features guest appearances from Jorja Smith, Jeremih, Damian Marley, and Future (we don't need a grocery list)
• engineering with → working with
• LA → Los Angeles
• the pair worked on engineering the album → first is mixing then it sounds like Burna Boy was also an engineer, needs to be re-written

So Burna Boy was mixed and enginnered the album? From the interview I don't read that. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 20:55, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

I did not write this section. A user by the name of User:Sullysully11 wrote it. I just restored it to how I had it.  Versace1608  ^{Wanna Talk?} 21:04, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Doesn't matter, if you are the nomiantor you need to fix it. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 21:40, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

I removed the entire wording added by Sullysully11. The way I have it now reads, "African Giant was mixed in Los Angeles by Jesse Ray Ernster, a mixing engineer known for his collaboration with Kanye West". No where in this statement does it say Burna Boy mixed and engineered the album. Wording like this also removes the confusion readers may have.  Versace1608  ^{Wanna Talk?} 21:21, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

• Burna Boy first revealed plans to release the album in April 2019 → not citation given, but it says "16 tracks album will be dropping by August 2019."

I removed that part.  Versace1608  ^{Wanna Talk?} 21:04, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

• The source number 6 should only be in the end of the last setence
• On July 10, 2019, → On the same month, Shouldn't this say "In the same month"? Anyways, it is currently worded as "on the same month".  Versace1608  ^{Wanna Talk?} 21:07, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

It should, thank you. I have fixe it.

• images of him as a baby with his father and grandfather → add "depicting generational transition"

Composition

• First setence should be "African Giant" is an afrobeat, dancehall, pop, and hip hop album
• The tracks should be in the same order as the tracklist
• There are 19 tracks you talk regarding eleven of them such as "Secret", "Gum Body", "Different", and with the amount of reviews available I'm sure you can find others
• Don't forget the artists featured in the tracks

I expanded the section and spoke about 15 of the album's 19 songs.  Versace1608  ^{Wanna Talk?} 02:01, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Tour

• Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival and the Apollo Theater → locations?

Removed Appollo Theatre; not relevant to the sentence; added California as the festival's location.  Versace1608  ^{Wanna Talk?} 13:46, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Why not relevant? MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 14:41, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Wrong choice of words. I should have said not absolutely relevant. Anyways, I will restore it.  Versace1608  ^{Wanna Talk?} 15:08, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Singles

• Burna Boy won Viewers' Choice award for "On the Low" → was for the video o for the song?
• Kalukata-influenced female dancers → not on citation given
• garnered → received
• He was nominated → He was also nominated
• The Prodigeezy-directed music video for "Killin Dem" incorporates clips from a Zubby Michael Nollywood film and features a mixture of Zanku dance styles → before the awards
• On the fourth single source 19 should only be in the end of both setences
• Burna Boy released the Meji Alabi-directed visuals for "Pull Up" → the music video for the Meji Alabi-directed "Pull Up" was released

I don't know much about the Soundcity MVP Awards. I have only seen clips of it on YouTube but I presumed that category is for the video and the Listener's Choice category is for the song.  Versace1608  ^{Wanna Talk?} 15:47, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

If you are not sure let it be the way it is. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 20:39, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Other releases

• Incoportate this into the compostion section.
• The sources call "Omo" and "Secrets" singles.

I incorporated those two songs into the singles section. I need to double check the sources to see if they described the songs in a compositional context.

@Versace1608: Did you double check? MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 19:29, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

I double checked and didn't find any source discusing the "Secret" song; "Omo" is already discussed is already mentioned in the composition section.  Versace1608  ^{Wanna Talk?} 20:55, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Reception

• positive reviews → generally favorable reviews
• slightly more than an eight out of 10 rating → so what was the score? 8.15; 8.5 or any other?
• "signature Afrobeat, dancehall, pop, and hip hop sounds all on one album" → it will be above, choose another piece of the review to replace this, otherwise sounds repetitive.
• Kitty Empire did the review for "The Observer" sister magazine of The Guardian
• In Clash, Narzra Ahmed → Clash' magazine, Narzra Ahmed
• just over nine out of 10 → same as previous
• Just spell "ten" instead of "10".
• Motolani Alake of Pulse Nigeria → this should be above giving its high rating
• The reviews should be from the highest to the lowest rating

The "slightly more" and "just over nine out of 10" were phrases added by the GOCE editor when the article was being copyedited.  Versace1608  ^{Wanna Talk?} 14:34, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Well, I would rather have a more accurate review. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 18:46, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Year-end rankings

• Vice → Vice magazine

Accolades

• Merge with the above section
• A collum for two awards its unecessary, write it

Track listing

• On the notes wikilink skit
• Release year of the songs it samples/interpolates between brackets

Personnel

• Use {{spaced ndash}}
• Two collums instead of four small ones

Weekly charts

• Use the automatic chart entries for France, Billboard, Canada and Ireland, no URL is needed

I don't know how to do this; I wasn't the one who put the table in the article.  Versace1608  ^{Wanna Talk?} 13:46, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Great time to learn, click. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 14:40, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

I fixed the table.  Versace1608  ^{Wanna Talk?} 18:10, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Year-end charts

• Fine

Release history

• The archive source is broken
• Spaceship and Bad Habit are not on cition given, either the CD release

I removed the archive source; it is not needed. It was automatically generated while I was archiving the article's sources.

Where is the cd format release source? MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 18:53, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Here; it was released on vinyl as well.  Versace1608  ^{Wanna Talk?} 19:06, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Replace it with this one Here, consistent release date + all the labels. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 19:20, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

I just replaced it with the link you posted here.  Versace1608  ^{Wanna Talk?} 20:42, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

References

• The sources are a huge mess
• Apple Music, Revolt, OkayAfrica, Broadway World → publisher
• Billboard, The Fader, NME, The Washington Post, Variance, Native magazine, The Guardian, Now, The Guardian, Rolling Stone, Vogue, Complex, Spin, Pitchfork, Clash, Earmilk, The Face, Vice... → work
• Revolt, OkayAfrica, The Guardian (first instance), Broadway World, Vice, Kitty Empire → wikilink (only first instance)
• DJbooth is reliable as it is an interview. Restored DJ Booth as publisher.
• Guardian Life → The Guardian (Nigeria) + work
• Instead of all africa, use the original source for it this
• Filter Free Nigeria → is this a reliable source?
• dutchcharts.nl → Hung Medien → publisher
• Vice → Vice magazine

My bad.  Versace1608  ^{Wanna Talk?} 21:25, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Missing one, take a closer look. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 21:51, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

I don't quite understand what you want me to do here? Should Apple Music, Revolt, OkayAfrica and Broadway World all be listed as publishers? What do you mean by "work"? I removed the publisher field from the DJ Booth source. Filter Free Nigeria is a reliable source; one of the few websites publishing quality reviews about Nigerian albums.  Versace1608  ^{Wanna Talk?} 18:21, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Yes. work means those publications are all work and not publishers. You you did that? I didn't told you to remove the publisher from the DJ Booth? I was just stating that for reviews it has been demeed as an unreliable source from wiki, but since it is an interview its fine. I can see the senior editor has written for other publications, seem fine. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 19:12, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

I have completed all of the problems outlined in this discussion. Please take a look at the article and tell me if there's anything else you need me to fix, thanks.  Versace1608  ^{Wanna Talk?} 16:30, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Overall

• You can now address the comments. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 19:20, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
• @Versace1608: Create a section called "Release and promotion" where the "tour and other releases" will merge. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 19:28, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
• There are also issues on the "Background and recording" and "Reference" sections to address. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 20:58, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

What other issues are there? I have already the issues you've raised above.  Versace1608  ^{Wanna Talk?} 21:22, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

No others, I made some changes to the article, please let me know if you are ok with those. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 21:51, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

I am okay with the changes you made.  Versace1608  ^{Wanna Talk?} 21:54, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

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