Talk:2007 Scottish Challenge Cup final/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) 17:01, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Comments

• "and St. Johnstone on 25 November " think this needs a "held" before the on, or similar.
  • changed to "and St. Johnstone, held on 25 November..."
• "The match was Dunfermline's second appearance..." by this point I think we would need to reiterate which match you're talking about.
  • Changed to "The 2007 final was Dunfermline's second appearance..." to make clear which match it is referring to.
• " lost in 1996" avoid that Easter egg (particularly when you have "in 1990" unlinked in the previous para).
  • Unlinked the "1996" article, as requested above.
• "St. Johnstone took a 3-goal..." -> "St. Johnstone took a 3–0 lead within the first 30 minutes with a penalty from... and goals from ... and ..."?
  • Incorporated the requested improvement into the article.
• "With 20 minutes left to play in the second half, Stephen Glass scored a penalty for Dunfermline to make it 3–2 which is how the scoreline remained until the end, with St. Johnstone winning its first national cup trophy in its 123-year history." would be good to split this, and avoid the "which is how..." which isn't great prose.
  • Reworded to "In the 70th minute, Stephen Glass scored the final goal of the game for Dunfermline from a penalty to make it 3–2. St. Johnstone's victory was the first time the club had won a national cup trophy in its 123-year history."
• "The competition is a ..." surely "was" as there's no way of telling what may happen to the competition now and in the future.
  • Corrected to "was".
• "last season's" previous season's.
  • Changed, as requested.
• " at Excelsior Stadium.[4] " wouldn't we normally say "at the Excelsior Stadium"?
  • I believe both may be acceptable but have changed to include "the" anyway.
• "before Stephen Glass scored" don't think you need to repeat his first name.
  • I'm unsure as to what you mean here. His first name is only mentioned in the lead and once again near the end of the article in the match report section.
    • Generally, in most prose I've read, once you've mentioned someone's first name, you don't need to do it again unless their surname is ambiguous. I'm referring to WP:SURNAME, while it's for bios, I tend to apply it to most articles. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:53, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
      • Fair point. I've removed the mention of his surname where requested. Cal Umbra 20:39, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
• Route to the final and the first para of Analysis seem to be pretty similar in coverage, are both needed?
  • I have mentioned it briefly in the "Analysis" section only as a comparison of the matches played by both teams. Generally teams have an advantage with home games and both clubs only played one home game each.
• "Dunfermline scored a goal when" I don't think "a goal" is necessary, there's only one way to score in this game.
  • Removed "a goal".
• You hyphenate semi-final but not mishitting. Seems odd to me!
  • Does look rather odd now you mention it although with a hyphen it comes up as a spelling mistake! I've added a hyphen anyway.
• "which he confirmed later" -> "later confirmed"
  • Changed.
• A lot of double full stops in the references.
  • I believe they are necessary as they are all preceded by "F.C." which is an abbreviation, which should be then followed by a full stop.
    • No, I don't think double full stops are appropriate, per MOS:CONSECUTIVE. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:53, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
      • Right enough. I stand corrected. Cal Umbra 20:39, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

I'll put it on hold for a week and give it another look over then. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:37, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks for the review. I've seen to the points you've mentioned. Some may require further discussion. Cal Umbra 19:45, 28 August 2013 (UTC)