Talk:.onion

None of those links work

See above

...Did you even read the article, or do you know what you're looking at? You have to use tor. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.226.189.151 (talk) 17:34, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

Hidden services

I'm trying to understand how hidden services can actually hide the server. In order to use a hidden service, the tor path must end at the final server, right? So the machine that is building up the path / initiating the request has to be able to know who to put in the final stage, and so knows who the last router, and the host of the hidden service actually is.

Right?

Nope; the hidden service builds an anonymous circuit to each of a set of medium-lived "introduction points," and advertises these. When the client wants to start talking to the server, it builds an announymomus circuit to one of these introduction points, and negotiates a rendezvous point to which the server and the client can both connnect. At no point does the client need to learn the server's location. I've added a link to the technical spec in case people want more details on how it works. -- Victor Lighthill 16:36, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

It might be a good idea to either expand this article or create a new article that explains Tor Hidden Services more in-depth. --Maetrics 00:18, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

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.onion?

Wow, now I've seen everything. Blue Mirage | Comment 09:26, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Are there any open web proxies/anonymizers capable of browsing .onion domains? H64 (talk) 21:20, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, there is a place to view .onion pages without being on Tor. Tor2Web Melboy (talk) 22:30, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Inpsosible

.onion sites are imposoble to find. can any one give me or send me to a list of sites. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.220.173.94 (talk) 02:13, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

I've added a link to the Tor article which has some .onion hosts. If you're not on the TOR network, you won't be able to connect to them. If you are on the TOR network, connecting to them will be slower than usual because of the added hops.--Maetrics 22:25, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

not a TLD

I question the validity of calling "onion" and "exit" Top-Level Domains and listing them with other domains registered, proposed, or otherwise connected by some official process with the ICANN DNS root. At best they may be classified as such in an alternate DNS root. The article refers to them as "pseudo-TLD address suffix". So what is it, a TLD or an address suffix? It can't be both, unless someone defines these terms for use within Tor clearly. Kbrose (talk) 15:48, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

It is, and that phrase means, an address suffix that looks like, but isn't, a top-level domain name. To me, "pseudo-TLD address suffix" is usefully clear without being misleading: "pseudo" negates the possibility of implying it is an official TLD, while allowing some property of TLDs (their outward appearance). b0at (talk) 16:27, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

I changed "address suffix" to "host suffix" because it is a technical contradiction, DNS is used to resolve names (including host names) to addresses (among other things), so appending a suffix to an address needs special definition. "TLD" has a defined meaning within the Domain Name System. If you're not using the DNS that defines the term, then one needs to redefine the term within another framework that is used. Kbrose (talk) 16:56, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

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.onion Wiki

The .onion wiki link for .onion resources contains links to .onion websites hosting child pornography among other things. I think that pretty immediately disqualifies its inclusion on Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tyree731 (talk • contribs) 23:19, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Uh, hello? Can we get some action on this issue? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.167.126.79 (talk) 22:15, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

I removed what I assumed was the link in question. If anyone disagrees with that, feel free to revert and/or discuss here. Haakon (talk) 22:50, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

I removed all the links to the hidden .onion sites. A lot of links were not working anymore, and the working links were all linking to some kind of child pornography. 79.140.50.10 (talk) 16:08, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Dead link

During several automated bot runs the following external link was found to be unavailable. Please check if the link is in fact down and fix or remove it in that case!

• http://ct7z23woq5y4jolo.onion/
  • In .onion on 2011-05-20 22:31:57, Socket Error: 'getaddrinfo failed'
  • In .onion on 2011-05-31 15:07:50, Socket Error: 'getaddrinfo failed'

--JeffGBot (talk) 15:08, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

.onion is a Tor link, view it on Tor.

also, bots probably run on chromiumQwerty15808 (talk) 16:25, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Dead link 2

During several automated bot runs the following external link was found to be unavailable. Please check if the link is in fact down and fix or remove it in that case!

• http://tor.eff.org/cvs/tor/doc/design-paper/tor-design.html
  • In .onion on 2011-05-20 22:32:09, 404 Not Found
  • In .onion on 2011-05-31 15:08:00, 404 Not Found

--JeffGBot (talk) 15:08, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Dead link 3

During several automated bot runs the following external link was found to be unavailable. Please check if the link is in fact down and fix or remove it in that case!

• http://pdjfyv7v3pn34w4f.onion/about.html
  • In .onion on 2011-05-20 22:31:57, Socket Error: 'getaddrinfo failed'
  • In .onion on 2011-05-31 15:08:10, Socket Error: 'getaddrinfo failed'

--JeffGBot (talk) 15:08, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Dead link 4

During several automated bot runs the following external link was found to be unavailable. Please check if the link is in fact down and fix or remove it in that case!

• http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/badtornodes/
  • In .onion on 2011-05-20 22:31:57, Socket Error: 'getaddrinfo failed'
  • In .onion on 2011-05-31 15:08:20, Socket Error: 'getaddrinfo failed'

--JeffGBot (talk) 15:08, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Dead link 5

During several automated bot runs the following external link was found to be unavailable. Please check if the link is in fact down and fix or remove it in that case!

• http://oqznfi3tdo6nwg3f.onion/
  • In .onion on 2011-05-20 22:31:57, Socket Error: 'getaddrinfo failed'
  • In .onion on 2011-05-31 15:08:31, Socket Error: 'getaddrinfo failed'

--JeffGBot (talk) 15:08, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Dead link 6

During several automated bot runs the following external link was found to be unavailable. Please check if the link is in fact down and fix or remove it in that case!

• http://am4wuhz3zifexz5u.onion/Library/
  • In .onion on 2011-05-20 22:31:58, Socket Error: 'getaddrinfo failed'
  • In .onion on 2011-05-31 15:08:50, Socket Error: 'getaddrinfo failed'

--JeffGBot (talk) 15:08, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Dead link 7

During several automated bot runs the following external link was found to be unavailable. Please check if the link is in fact down and fix or remove it in that case!

• http://ci3hn2uzjw2wby3z.onion/
  • In .onion on 2011-05-20 22:31:58, Socket Error: 'getaddrinfo failed'
  • In .onion on 2011-05-31 15:08:51, Socket Error: 'getaddrinfo failed'

--JeffGBot (talk) 15:09, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Dead link 8

During several automated bot runs the following external link was found to be unavailable. Please check if the link is in fact down and fix or remove it in that case!

• http://
  • In .onion on 2011-05-20 22:32:00, Socket Error: 'getaddrinfo failed'
  • In .onion on 2011-05-31 15:09:01, Socket Error: 'getaddrinfo failed'

--JeffGBot (talk) 15:09, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Dead link 9

During several automated bot runs the following external link was found to be unavailable. Please check if the link is in fact down and fix or remove it in that case!

• https://
  • In .onion on 2011-05-20 22:32:03, Socket Error: 'getaddrinfo failed'
  • In .onion on 2011-05-31 15:09:11, Socket Error: 'getaddrinfo failed'

--JeffGBot (talk) 15:09, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Anonymous #opDarknet

In the past few weeks, Anonymous has targeted onion sites that host child pornography. According to their media releases, Anonymous brought down Freedom Hosting after it refused Anonymous's requests to remove substantial amounts of child porn, including sites titled Lolita City and Hard Candy. I added this information and appropriate support references to the main article. Anonymous has announced that it will continue to target child pornographers on an ongoing basis through #opDarknet. See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rah535JmEI8&feature=player_embedded

I don't agree with many of the above comments, though, that a link should be removed from Wikipedia merely because it is an "onion site." The darknet of onion sites created by Tor users and relayers has a primary legitimate purpose - to shield dialogue and activism in repressive political systems such as China and Iran (and increasingly, all the rest). I run a Tor relay myself, exactly for that purpose. It is correct that links to "onion sites" will show up as dead if you click on them without adding the Tor utility to your internet browser. That doesn't mean the links are broken. On the contrary: it shows that they are working as they are supposed to.

Please be careful not to target legitimate tools of speech and activism with the broad brush of child pornography. Anonymous, in my view, takes the correct approach by targeting the content itself and its reprehensible users (1500 child porn user names were publicly released, and I suspect there will be more on the way.) Tor and the onion network, variously known as the "hidden internet" or "darknet," are valuable resources that should not be banned or purged from Wikipedia. Indeed, it is likely that hacktivists such as Anonymous who seek to combat child porn and other abuses in our society rely themselves on such networks.--Lisa M. Kerr 14:19, 23 October 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raresilk (talk • contribs)

Links in article

It is questionable whether the article needs to list example .onion addresses per WP:EL and WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Also, at the time of writing, http://tor2web.org/ is a dead link. Could there be a consensus on pruning or removing the onion link section?--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 08:07, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

It is indeed questionable, but the requirements for the EL's should be considered lower in here than say the links at the tor article. This is after all an article about .onion sites, so it stand to reason that it will have some example links to .onion sites. That said, the list can surely be made shorter, and made much more cohesive. The Core.onion page is a good start. The Freedom hosting is a second good link, but the information about Freedom hosting might be better integrated (with some work) into the article. as for the others:

• InspecTor / ExcludeNodes generator - I am not sure if this gives any insight for the reader about the .onion network.
• The Tor Library - as above, not sure any direct insight about the .onion network can be given by going to that site.
• talk.masked - Might give some insight, but might also be like having a link to 4chan at the Internet article.
• TorStatusNet - Same as InspecTor. Not sure what insight if any is given to the reader

Belorn (talk) 16:00, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

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Registry website is technically incorrect - there kinda isn't any

To get a new onion address, the user would download Tor (not the browser), configure a few things and they would have a new onion address that's valid in a specific file on the filesystem.

The user hasn't reached torproject.org to get a new onion service, in their browser or when Tor creates a new onion address.

What Tor does to "get" a new onion address is actually "create" one. That's because the onion address are a form of Public-key cryptography, and so keys are generated to get a new onion service.

There's also no place I'm aware of that you can find on the Tor project website to "register" an onion address (with exception for a guide for getting one) - onion addresses are basically just random numbers generated by a computer (that cannot be controlled precisely enough controlled due to it's fixed length and the purpose of a self authenticating address), so I wouldn't consider that the Tor project website is actually the registry website because technically the user is creating the onion address.

Related edit --JacksonChen666 (talk) 23:57, 19 March 2022 (UTC)