Talk:Česká zbrojovka Uherský Brod

same company?

Česká Zbrojovka Uherský Brod was a different factory than the plant in Strakonice. I believe they were both the same company but the Uhersky Brod facility produced guns. The Strakonice plant is where the CZ motorcycles were manufactured. Gun enthusiasts will associate the Uhersky Brod brand with guns.Orsoni 06:19, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

This article is not so accurate when it comes to the firearms subject. BRNO and CZUB are two different companies, and even when they were one state organization they made different firearms at different locations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.233.178.253 (talk) 21:13, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Much of the article is totally wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.233.178.253 (talk) 21:16, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Commentary in article

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Note: This article might be a bit misleading. There were/are more than one "CZ" manufactures in Czechoslovakia/Czech Republic. Also weapons listed below were made by different manufacturers. For basic info see Česká Zbrojovka article.

This kind of commentary does not belong in the article, per Wikipedia's Talk Page policy. There are templates that can be used for a redirect, such as one of these ones:

Not to be confused with Česká Zbrojovka.

This article is about topic. For other topic, see location.

There are some more specific templates available, and it may also be prudent to create a Disambiguation page for these two articles. -Juansmith (talk) 01:55, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

CZ, CSA?

Is this the same company as Czech Small Arms (C.S.A.) and/or CZ (e.g. CZ - USA)?

http://www.csa.co.cz/ Czech Small Arms (C.S.A.)

"the only manufacturer of the Sa vz.58 rifles and Sa vz.61 Pistols"

http://www.cz-usa.com/ CZ - USA

sells "VZ 58 Military Sporter" and "VZ 61 SKORPION" pistol (discontinued 2010)

The article states that this company sells both the "Sa vz. 58" military rifle and the "Škorpion vz. 61 (7.65×17mm Browning SR)" submachine gun/machine pistol.

Just noticed that the infobox in the article says "Divisions CZ-USA". Can we then safely assume that these three names (Česká zbrojovka a.s. Uherský Brod (ČZUB), Czech Small Arms (C.S.A.), CZ (e.g. CZ - USA)) represent the same company? One wrinkle is that the Czech Small Arms (C.S.A.) website has the "factory located in Jablunka, Czech Republic", while this article concerns a factory located in Uherský Brod, Czech Republic.

Oh, wait... no! From the CSA website:

"Czech Small Arms (C.S.A.) is the only manufacturer of the Sa vz.58 rifles and Sa vz.61 Pistols. The factory located in Jablunka, Czech Republic, continues to produce these legendary firearms for distributors in North America and in Europe. Originally manufactured by CZ Uhersky Brod, Sa vz. 58 rifles and Sa vz. 61 Pistols are currently produced only by Czech Small Arms. If you possess a vz.58 rifle or a vz.61 Pistol, most likely, your firearm was manufactured in our factory or assembled from parts made in our factory - regardless of the name engraved on the firearm.

Czech Small Arms is currently manufacturing the vz.58 and vz.61 in calibres that have never been produced by any other small arms manufacturer. The growing popularity of the vz.58 and vz.61 has led to this expansion of new calibres."

SO, according to the Czech Small Arms (C.S.A.) website, that company is an entity unrelated to "CZ Uhersky Brod" (presumably the subject of this article, "Česká zbrojovka a.s. Uherský Brod (ČZUB)"). CZ - USA, in its website's Company section, does seem to indicate that its parent company is "Ceska zbrojovka a.s., Uhersky Brod". Thus, only "Czech Small Arms (C.S.A.)", in Jablunka, Czech Republic, is unrelated. It seems then that the websites of Czech Small Arms (C.S.A.) and CZ - USA may be making incompatible competing claims (unless it's just a timing issue?). (see above) What all the English-language sources seem to share is somewhat vague language concerning company history and relationships. Heavenlyblue (talk) 21:17, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, the CZ-USA's parent company is Česká zbrojovka Uherský Brod. Whereas, the Czech Small Arms (CSA) is different company based in Jablůnka, currently producing Sa vz.58 and Sa vz.61, however these firearms were previously produced in ČZ Uherský Brod, therefore they are in this article mentioned correctly. Jirka.h23 (talk) 06:44, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

German entry please

Could someone please add a link tio the German Wikipedia entry https://de.wiki.x.io/wiki/%C4%8Cesk%C3%A1_zbrojovka. (The company in Brno was https://de.wiki.x.io/wiki/%C4%8Ceskoslovensk%C3%A1_zbrojovka.) The company in Uherský Brod ("Hungarian Brod") is https://de.wiki.x.io/wiki/%C4%8Cesk%C3%A1_zbrojovka. I didn’t manage to edit it in. – Fritz Jörn (talk) 08:38, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Logo

If you remove the logo, please replace it with the new one. Faceless Enemy (talk) 00:20, 16 April 2015 (UTC)