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Photo challenge related to food on commons ends in 4 days
editFor information: commons:Commons:Photo_challenge#2015_.E2.80.93_July_.E2.80.93_Food_production_and_processing--Alexmar983 (talk) 09:44, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
- you can vote now in commons:Commons:Photo_challenge/2015_-_July_-_Food_production_and_processing/Voting if you want.--Alexmar983 (talk) 08:55, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
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Portal:Food/Selected article/25 should be replaced as spoo (food) has been deleted. (not watching, please {{ping}}
as needed) czar 10:16, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
Portal expanded
editThe portal has been expanded with the addition of new Good- and Featured article sections. The article selections listed below were added. Additional expansion, updating and cleanup was also performed. If anyone is interested, please feel free to discuss these changes here. North America1000 15:06, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
Good articles
edit- Good articles are listed at Portal:Food/Selected article, which now consists of all GA-class articles. In addition to being denoted on the main portal page, this is also noted on the subpage.
Featured articles
edit1 * Maple syrup
2 * Malagasy cuisine
3 * Medieval cuisine
4 * Boletus edulis
5 * Eliza Acton
6 * Maria Rundell
7 * Cucurbita
8 * Elizabeth David
9 * History of saffron
10 * Maraba coffee
11 * George Washington (inventor)
12 * Odwalla
13 * Ramaria botrytis
14 * Cracker Barrel
15 * Durian
16 * Cabbage
17 * Freedom from Want (painting)
18 * Gumbo
19 * Hannah Glasse
20 * Lettuce
21 * Thomcord
22 * Everything Tastes Better with Bacon
23 * Borscht
24 * Pisco sour
25 * Lactarius indigo
26 * La Stazione
- Additional articles for the portal can be considered from those available in the table listed below.
Food and drink articles by quality and importance | |||||||
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Quality | Importance | ||||||
Top | High | Mid | Low | NA | ??? | Total | |
FA | 7 | 14 | 32 | 53 | |||
FL | 2 | 2 | 4 | ||||
FM | 139 | 139 | |||||
GA | 15 | 24 | 75 | 262 | 5 | 381 | |
B | 54 | 234 | 332 | 598 | 73 | 1,291 | |
C | 81 | 392 | 974 | 2,839 | 487 | 4,773 | |
Start | 22 | 324 | 1,639 | 10,380 | 3 | 3,804 | 16,172 |
Stub | 17 | 556 | 8,271 | 4,962 | 13,806 | ||
List | 12 | 70 | 115 | 494 | 23 | 269 | 983 |
Category | 9 | 1 | 7,995 | 8,005 | |||
Disambig | 1 | 163 | 164 | ||||
File | 3,005 | 3,005 | |||||
Portal | 614 | 614 | |||||
Project | 388 | 388 | |||||
Redirect | 10 | 71 | 558 | 2,775 | 3,414 | ||
Template | 980 | 980 | |||||
NA | 9 | 5 | 14 | ||||
Other | 1 | 5 | 189 | 195 | |||
Assessed | 184 | 1,089 | 3,778 | 23,451 | 16,279 | 9,600 | 54,381 |
Unassessed | 15 | 1 | 2,001 | 2,017 | |||
Total | 184 | 1,089 | 3,778 | 23,466 | 16,280 | 11,601 | 56,398 |
WikiWork factors (?) | ω = 187,423 | Ω = 5.14 |
Improvements reverted
editThe above improvements were reverted in a series of drive-by edits portal reversions performed by a user on 12 October 2019 (diff). The articles added was certainly not performed in a "sneaky" manner; they were transparently listed directly above in plain view. The copy/paste rationale provided in the edit summary for all of the mass reversions did not take into account other improvements that had occurred, which were also all wiped out in the single-click revert. See below for some of these improvements that I have restored. North America1000 19:08, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
- Minor ce in header, rw to: "A portal dedicated to food and foodways". The portal's scope deals with food as well as foodways. Added banner images to the top of the portal, which serves to enhance its visual layout.
- Added a link to Portal:Food/Selected article, using "{{Box-footer|[[Portal:Food/Selected article|More selected articles]]...}}".
Improvements restored
edit- Nb. The updated version of the portal (permanent link) was restored on 27 January 2020 (UTC), as per this edit that was performed by another user. North America1000 15:33, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
2020 updates
edit- Pisco sour and Maraba coffee have been removed from the Featured article section, as both are beverages. North America1000 16:47, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
- Two Featured list articles were added to the Featured article section: List of culinary nuts and List of vegetable oils. North America1000 16:56, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
- The following GA-class articles were added to Portal:Food/Selected article, a page that consists entirely of GA-class articles: Squab pie, Modern Cookery for Private Families, El Celler de Can Roca. North America1000 15:55, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
- The following B-class articles were added to the Selected article section within the portal, to round out the portal to provide a more comprehensive and diverse topical overview: Truffle, Chicken Kiev, Stir frying, Ancient Greek cuisine, Ice cream, Indian cuisine, Korean cuisine, Tempeh, Jellyfish as food. North America1000 15:55, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
- Added 2007–08 world food price crisis to the Selected article section. North America1000 09:41, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
El Marisquero
editHistoria del Marisquero Luz Elena Jiménez (talk) 03:19, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- The nearest articles seem to be Gathering seafood by hand, which isn't yet ready to be showcased, and History of seafood, which could be added if desired. The portal already displays Seafood as a selected article. Certes (talk) 13:49, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
The Wikibooks Cookbook
editVast numbers of articles about dishes link to the "Cookbook" at Wikibooks for the recipe... and you're lucky if 1% of the links lead to actual recipes. Try it with practically any Wikipedia article on any dish. A "Cookbook:" link in the infobox above the link to "Media:". Click on the link: "No results found for Cookbook: (whatever you were hoping to find)."
I mean, it's been this way for 10 years now, and it's disgraceful. The Food editors at Wikipedia have added thousands of links to "Cookbook" recipes... which actually existed long ago... until the powers-that-be at Wikibooks decided to delete the whole lot of them. The thousands of links have been leading to nonexistent recipes all these years.
This failure to coordinate between wiki tribes is a massive embarrassment to the entire project. Why has it stayed at this impasse for so many years? Either add the recipes to "Cookbook" or delete the useless links. Johanna-Hypatia (talk) 00:03, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Totally agree. I am new to the Cookbook project (though not a new Wiki editor). I see no links anywhere to the Cookbook. Why is that? Has there been a consensus to eliminate the Cookbook from Wiki food pages and vice-versa? I'd like to help restoring the links, but I don't see any link, faulty or otherwise. I put some links (provisionally) on the Rhubarb page, just to see how it works. What should we do? It seems eerie that there are no links from any food page to an actual recipe. I'm thinking after, say, two weeks (is that a reasonable amount of time?), if there is no response, I'll start adding links to Wikipedia in a == Cookbook == section between 'See also' and 'References' (after References seems a bit too far away, as people tend to stop scrolling right before References) and links in the Cookbook to the relevant Wikipedia pages (see Cookbook:Rhubarb pie). WikiUser70176 (talk) 14:21, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
- EDIT: The Cookbook declined to have any links on the recipe pages (so the rhunbarb pie links in the example above have been deleted). The argument is that the Wiki Cookbook should be "self-contained resource to be as useful for reading offline as it is when reading from the website." I pointed out that whereas, a priori, a book is indeed a self contained object, a Wikibook is also a digital book, therefore links not only are useful but they can speed up and enhance the digital experience of finding information, without taking anything away from the paper experience. But such a drastic change to the Wikibooks project guidelines is way above my Wiki paygrade, so the only hope that remains to add recipes to dishes is here, on Wikipedia, by linking to the Cookbook's pages. Thanks to everybody for their thoughts on the matter! WikiUser70176 (talk) 18:40, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
- It may be appropriate to add a link, perhaps using {{Wikibooks}}, within the "External links" section (or within "References" if no EL section). WP:SIS has useful guidance on when, how and where to link. Certes (talk) 16:03, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
- The "References" idea is good in principle, but the practice, the implementation might be a bit cumbersome. I mean, to put the links in the "References", one has to mention them within the article text, right? That may work when you have only a few recipes for an ingredient like said rhubarb, but what do you do with cabbage, where you have dozens of dishes? The {{{Wikibooks}}} box is a good idea though! We can have both: a few links with examples of dishes (say, three examples, the most common or whatever) and for whoever wants more recipes, they can click on the Cookbook box. As for "External Links", I'm all for it! The only quibble I have with that is that most people stop scrolling just before "References", so the "External Links" will be totally ignored if it is after References, particularly if the References section is long. So, if we put these "External Links" with the recipes from the Wikicookbook before References, that may be more useful. After all, chances are that somebody who reads the entry on, say Jambalaya or Bolognese Sauce, might be more interested to see how it's made than to find the original source of some obscure cultural event associated with the dish. So EL before R, I'd suggest. WikiUser70176 (talk) 18:59, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
- Although it might appear in the References section, this isn't a reference and should not be cited to support any of the text (partly because it's not a reliable source). WP:SIS explains how and when to add a link like the one on the right. Certes (talk) 22:26, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
- For more about sister links placement in articles, check out MOS:LAYOUTEL, "Links to sister projects". North America1000 07:37, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks! That is useful. WikiUser70176 (talk) 14:23, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
Round bread loaf
editWhat is the proper name for the round bread served open facedwith cream cheese. Popular with e,g., spreadable cheese and toppings of olives, crushed potato chips, etc.? 24.241.233.129 (talk) 15:11, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Panzerotti#The term "panzerotti" doesn't exist in English dictionaries that may be of interest to members of this Portal. JacktheBrown (talk) 23:12, 28 June 2024 (UTC)