Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tennis/Assessment

Assessment

Who is doing this assessments and when? What are criteria for importance and quality (can you add some tennis related articles for examples, and not basic wiki articles)? --Göran Smith 00:46, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Done. As for who is doing the assessment...we are. Any member of the tennis Wikiproject.. Sorry if I replied a bit late, I didn't know a page was created here until today... --KZ ^{Talk • Contrib} 08:19, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Just went on a bit of a tagging spree...

I think all mid-, high- or top-importance tournament articles should now be tagged as such - rst20xx (talk) 23:46, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

I shall continue my tagging spree, you can follow along at User:Rst20xx/Tennis - rst20xx (talk) 01:41, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

More People

More people need to check unlisted articles for class and importance. Their is way to many to do. I'll try to get 1000 done if I can. Irunongames • play 15:57, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

There are currently almost 12000 unassessed articles in this project. Anybody want to help? MakeSense64 (talk) 18:07, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

John Powless

How would I obtain a B rating as to quality for this article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.166.83.52 (talk) 20:00, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Some thoughts on assessment

I've just rated a bunch of tennis articles for WikiProject New Zealand and they were all stubs, with very little prose and mostly just tables of results. All those articles were rated start class for WikiProject Tennis. May I suggest that you make the assessment criteria on the assessment page more relevant to tennis articles, and link to page examples that actually cover tennis articles? For example, this article could be used to link to a stub (but as it stands, it is rated start class), or here's another example. As the assessment criteria stand, they don't help me to figure out whether a tennis article gets rated differently compared to other projects. Schwede66 19:14, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

@Wolbo and Taxman1913: Any thoughts? Schwede66 18:44, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

i'm sorry. I recently moved from Indonesia to Delaware and started a new job. I've fallen behind on articles I wanted to keep up to date. So, I can't be much help to you right now. Besides, I've never really rated an article other than changing it from stub to start-class. Most of what I do here is write. I try to pay attention to feedback to improve the articles I write. Many of the ones I've written could mostly be improved by spending days in a library to do further research in old newspapers (or by having access to more old newspapers online that are more easily searchable than they are now). Wolbo does a lot of rating. Hopefully he can help. Taxman1913 (talk) 01:56, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Schwede66, it's an interesting idea to use tennis specific examples for the quality assessment table. The thought of doing so crossed my mind before but it is not completely straightforward because the table uses a generic template, {{Grading scheme}}. It seems to be customizable, via parameters, and I will look into that. This, however, does not change the actual criteria for the quality assessment, these are the same for all wikiprojects. Applying these relatively generic criteria to the assessment of articles is not exact science but a matter of judgment and that explains differences you may see between quality ratings. In my view the difference between stub and start class is fairly inconsequential and is certainly not a matter worth edit-warring over. The examples you provide date back to 2012 when I had just started to help clean up the backlog of over 12,000 unassessed tennis articles. Today I would assess both articles as stub due to their lack of prose. Please note that an article should always have only a single value for the quality assessment (the importance class can differ per wikiproject).--Wolbo (talk) 02:04, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

I use 1,500 bytes of prose as a rough guide when start class is reached, but when there is a lot of other material present (e.g. results tables), that may be reduced. That's often the case with tennis. As it's not straightforward, I thought I'd encourage you to be a bit more specific on your assessment page. Schwede66 02:08, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

I realize this is "forever" ago, but I am looking to add the following:

Tennis articles by quality and importance

(just after this header, before the table)

Guidance Quality

• Stub - Article created, basic infobox/article template/layout complete, at least the main reference.
• Start - Answers: Who, What, When, Where, maybe Why it is here/important. Yearly/tournament instances/results should have the completed draw/results.
• C - Solid article, good references, complete discussion of topic. Yearly/tournament instances/results should illustrate place within the Tour/Year/Tournament schedule.
• B - Above average discussion of topic
• A - is essentially a project indicator to get it reviewed for GA/FL status
• Other higher statuses are performed by consensus from people outside the project.

The general goal is to get the "Top" articles to "A" status (or above)

Guidance Importance

• Top - Grand Slam, Major, top 10 player; Current Tournaments within 5-ish years
• High - Tours (ATP, WTA) WTT; Top 25 player; any with a Grand Slam or Major win; Grand Slam/Major yearly entries (last decade).
• Mid - Sub-Tour tournaments (Majors/Slam older than a decade); Any other player, coach, commentator, etc. Equipment, Terminology, etc.
• Low - Pretty much every thing else.
• NA - is for "Administrative" pages; Categories, templates, etc.
• ??? - means un-assessed; so go take a look and assess it!

Thoughts? Mjquinn_id (talk) 17:42, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Davis Cup web addresses

Hi everybody,

I don't know if anyone noticed by now, but Davis Cup webpage address structure has changed, and among other things all player IDs have changed. There is quite a lot of changes that have to be done on Wikidata (thousands? dozens of thousands?), unless somebody figures how to replace every single ID there. I've replaced some IDs for Israeli, Canadian and Spanish players but definitely won't be able to finish all this by myself. --Deinocheirus (talk) 17:05, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, it looks like Davis Cup has changed their formatting. I just changed our template to link to the proper website, but all player's numbers have changed.... it sucks. Fyunck(click) (talk) 23:53, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

I also just emailed Davis Cup to make sure this is a permanent change because it'll take months/years to fix them all. Fyunck(click) (talk) 00:07, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

What would be good to have is a table of player IDs (old and new, plus their names) and if that's obtained, I'm sure somebody can automate the process and have a bot update all the ID numbers. Schwede66 01:38, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

But if you've taken the time to write down the two numbers and player's name, by that time I could have updated it by editing the player page. It's a long process regardless. Fyunck(click) (talk) 01:46, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Not if the Davis Cup people can give you a spreadsheet. Schwede66 02:34, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

I somehow doubt that will happen, but I did let them know that traffic to their site will be much lower because of the months/years it will take to update our player bios. Fyunck(click) (talk) 04:53, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

This is also being talked about at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Tennis#FedCup so I'll continue it over there. Fyunck(click) (talk) 08:15, 26 August 2016 (UTC)