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Parishes project

I have started a project for missing civil parishes at User:Crouch, Swale/Missing parishes. The missing parishes in Cumbria are:

• Barton and Pooley Bridge, see Talk:Barton, Cumbria#Split to create separate Barton and Pooley Bridge?
• Lands common to Holme Abbey, Holme Low and Holme St Cuthbert
• Selside and Fawcett Forest

And these exists as a redirect only but should have separate articles:

• Carlatton
• Drigg and Carleton
• Lindal and Marton, draft existed at Draft:Lindal and Marton, Cumbria
• Old Hutton and Holmescales
• Underbarrow and Bradleyfield

A total of 8, see User:Crouch, Swale/Missing parishes (1)#Cumbria

The missing parishes in Lancashire which are only redirects but should be articles are:

• Bispham, West Lancashire
• Gisburn Forest
• Hesketh-with-Becconsall
• Higham-with-West Close Booth
• Ingol and Tanterton, same as former Ingol ward so perhaps move information for that to parish, current ward is Ingol & Cottam
• Inskip-with-Sowerby
• Mearley
• Roughlee Booth
• Saint Anne's on the Sea, create as St Annes, draft existed at Draft:St Annes, Lancashire
• Stalmine-with-Staynall

A total of 10, see User:Crouch, Swale/Missing parishes (2)#Lancashire. Crouch, Swale (talk) 16:58, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

• I've struct the created ones, 1st half of members to get more input @93gregsonl2, Nev1, Peter I. Vardy, Penrithguy, Margymarge, Small-town hero, Dr Greg, Jza84, Tangerines, Bankhallbretherton, Cj1340, Nthep, Galloglass, Lozleader, Bobyllib, Al.Glitch, J Milburn, and MJLRGS:. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:23, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

  Pinging the 2nd half @JimKillock, BigDom, Preston North End Dan, Tomodude123, JMRH6, PamD, Pigsonthewing, Laplacemat, Retroplum, Thoughtfortheday, Aricooperdavis, ClemRutter, RedScrees, Dthomsen8, Lancashire2789, DiggingLake, Sinnistrall, Bduke, Transandrosupport, and Pickled Pigeon:. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:33, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Need someone to check

I believe I have just fixed the "advertisement-like" section in the article Great Langdale. Could someone else check what I have done? Thegreatcapybara (talk) 00:17, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sources

Main page: User:Headbomb/unreliable

I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like

• John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14. (John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.)

and turns it into something like

• John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.

It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{cite web}}, {{cite journal}} and {{doi}}.

The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.

- Headbomb {t · c · p · b}

This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:01, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

FAR for Norman Birkett, 1st Baron Birkett

User:Buidhe has nominated Norman Birkett, 1st Baron Birkett for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:56, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

Westmorland and Furness etc

See Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_UK_geography#Location_by_ceremonial_or_non-metropolitan_county? for some discussions about how to write about places in the new unitary authorities. PamD 21:32, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

And Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(geographic_names)#RfC_about_WP:UKPlace_and_ceremonial_counties may also be of interest to members of this project. PamD 16:11, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Pages needing to be moved to new dabs

I've raised this at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_UK_geography#Places_in_Cumbria_needing_new_disambiguations to recruit helpers to move pages carefully to new disambiguations. (Nothing to do with the above discussions about counties: we're talking here about distinguishing places which are ambiguous within Cumbria). PamD 09:47, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

Wards of old and new councils

Are the electoral wards for the two new Cumbria unitary authorities the same as for the previous county councils? If so, we need to take care not to lose information in edits like this one which changes "Dovenby is part of the Dearham and Broughton Ward of Cumbria County Council." to "Dovenby was part of the Dearham and Broughton Ward of Cumbria County Council." without mentioning what ward it is in for the new unitary authority. @Bleaney for info. PamD 19:39, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

I also suggest we should avoid leaving articles like this with no indication of location beyond "Cumbria". PamD 19:47, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

Project-independent quality assessments

Quality assessments by Wikipedia editors rate articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at Wikipedia:Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a |class= parameter to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment.

No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, and your project banner will automatically "inherit" any changes to the general assessments for the purpose of assigning categories.

However, if your project has decided to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass {{WPBannerMeta}} a new |QUALITY_CRITERIA=custom parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present. Aymatth2 (talk) 13:14, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Missing museum

The Norman Centre at Appleby Castle is missing from the Lancashire museums page and I don't have the techinial skills to add it 2A02:C7C:2EB9:4300:25B4:8CB4:5B8B:1FC2 (talk) 18:49, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

I've added it to the Appleby Castle article and to the List of museums in Cumbria (not Lancashire!) PamD 08:28, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

Rochdale

This article is currently something of a battleground and might benefit from intervention by careful experienced editors. PamD 05:57, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Problems with List of Wainwrights

An observant IP has pointed out at User talk:Britishfinance#https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/List_of_Wainwrights that the figures for "Prominence" on 4 hills in the main "List of Wainwrights by height" were wildly incorrect. The table was created five years ago by the aforementioned now-inactive editor, using data extracted from the Database of British and Irish Hills by a method known only to themself (as far as I know), and there was apparently a glitch in the handling of Wainwrights which are not also Birketts. I think I've corrected these four - see Talk:List of Wainwrights#Problematic prominences.

But: (a) There are about 56 entries in the "List of Outlying Fells by height" in the same article which are similarly wrong, and will take a bit of work to fix. I might get round to it some time, but (b) The DBIH is regularly tweaked as hills get re-surveyed, and after five years it's probably time for our lists to be refreshed. Is there anyone with the data manipulation skills and interest in hills who would like to have a go?

I was going to raise this primarily at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject British and Irish hills, but that project is marked as probably inactive, so I've come here where editors interested in the Lake District are likely to be found and will make a note pointing this way on the other Wikiprojects listed on the talk page. PamD 21:30, 12 October 2023 (UTC)