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Can't create clippings on newspapers.com

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I can access newspapers.com and click through search results to see the newspaper pages, but when I click on "Clip" I get "Register to create a clipping. Register for a Free Account" in a banner at the top of the screen. I'm working on an iPad as I'm travelling so I can't tell whether this also happens on my PC -- perhaps this is always the case on an iPad and my PC would work fine. Using Chrome. Is this a known issue? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 16:10, 24 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

What worked for me was registering an account at newspapers.com (actual site, not the TWL proxy), logging in there, then logging in again through TWL proxy. AstonishingTunesAdmirer 連絡 16:19, 24 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Mike Christie I literally just clipped an article and yes, you must signed in to clip. When you first enter the search page there is a person icon where you can sign in if you already have a newspapers.com account. Otherwise, you need to create an account on Newspapers.com directly. SusunW (talk) 16:20, 24 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
That worked -- thanks! I tried it both ways around -- logging in to my account first and then going through the library; that didn't work. Going through the library and then logging in did work. Thanks for the help! Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 16:24, 24 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you, AstonishingTunesAdmirer and SusunW! It's been months of frustration, the lack of clipping.
I'm wondering, is there a way we can add that sort of instruction to the Library itself, so that the larger user base who's not looking on this talk page will know? -- Zanimum (talk) 02:17, 27 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
When asked about this over at the WP:Discord server, @Samwalton9 (WMF) mentioned that instead they've been thinking about removing the Newspapers.com proxy entirely (as it's hard to maintain and has all these issues with clipping) and returning to the system where you manually apply to get your account upgraded for a year. AstonishingTunesAdmirer 連絡 02:30, 27 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
That system was easier to use. TrottieTrue (talk) 22:01, 19 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
For Newspapers.com, yes, unfortunately you currently need to register outside of the library, and then log in inside the library. It's a pain and not how we'd like it to be. If you have thoughts about returning to the older system of individual account accesses I'd love to hear - we're evaluating the workload to move back to that system. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 17:12, 27 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Now that I know how it works it's fine as far as I'm concerned. And I got very quick help here; it's annoying but only a minor issue if everyone knows how to do it. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 18:02, 27 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Samwalton9 (WMF) It's not unique to newspapers.com. Same happens with newspaperarchive and the British newspaper archives. The problem with the old system was that they stopped sending renewal notices, so inevitably your access would be suspended and you'd have to reapply, causing several weeks delay in getting back up and running. Once I figured out the log in system, this seems to work fine, except when changes are made by the provider to their system, and the fact that British newspaper archives billed me for renewal. I paid it, but it was weird. I do think it would be helpful to provide an explanation on the various newspaper collections that to clip you have to sign in. SusunW (talk) 18:10, 27 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
I agree with SusunW. The inconvenience of having to register etc. is very minor compared to the old system. Figureofnine (talkcontribs) 19:06, 27 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
I, too, had this clipping problem. My only complaint about the current system is that if you're trying to use the proxy URL for citations, it points non-Wikipedia-Library users to the top page of The Wikipedia Library not the actual resource. So this is the URL for the item that I see
http://www-newspapers-c.m.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/image/480189291/
and this is the one I need to use for a citation
https://www.newspapers.com/image/480189291/
I agree the wait time was frustrating with the old system, so I'm not sure of a better solution but I might not mind the old system if it were to come back (apologies for weird formatting, feel free to make it look nicer). Jessamyn (my talk page) 20:39, 27 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
I fixed this issue by writing a small userscript:
Extended content
// ==UserScript==
// @name         TWL proxy fix
// @namespace    http://tampermonkey.net/
// @version      2024-05-23
// @description  Replace TWL proxy link in share window
// @author       You
// @match        http://www-newspapers-c.m.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/*
// @icon         https://www.google.com/s2/favicons?sz=64&domain=oclc.org
// @grant        none
// @require      https://code.jquery.com/jquery-3.6.0.min.js
// ==/UserScript==

/* globals $ */

(function() {
    'use strict';
    $('body').on('mouseover', '#share_link_link_url', function() {
        var str = $(this).val();
        var regex = /https:\/\/www-newspapers-com\.wikipedialibrary\.idm\.oclc\.org\/(.*)/g;
        str = str.replace(regex, "https://newspapers.com/$1");
        $(this).val(str);
    });
})();
You'd need Tampermonkey extension installed in your browser to make it work. Then you click on the Tampermonkey icon → Create a new script, replace everything there with this code and click File → Save. Then on Newspapers.com (TWL proxy version of it, that is), once you create a clipping, there will be a blue Share button in a panel on the right side of your screen. When you click it and mouse over the link in the share window, it should replace it with the proper link. AstonishingTunesAdmirer 連絡 21:33, 27 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
All that seems really complicated. I just sign in to Newspapers.com, go to "My clippings" and paste the link from there. SusunW (talk) 04:15, 28 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Yeah, that works too, but then I would need to keep the second tab opened. And if I already have dozens upon dozens of tabs opened, keeping track of it is daunting. AstonishingTunesAdmirer 連絡 04:21, 28 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
I don't understand what "register outside of the library, and then log in inside the library" means. Can you explain further, or point me towards directions on how to do this?
Also, I have been unable to access newspapers.com on my home computer but am able to do so when I log in at my local public library. I don't know why this is, or if it is related to the registration issue you mention. Mehendri Solon (talk) 15:53, 12 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
https://www.newspapers.com/ is "outside of the library". When you access it through The Wikipedia Library ("inside the library"), right now you use http://www-newspapers-c.m.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/ (known as a proxy server). For whatever reason (unrelated to you unable to access the site), this proxy doesn't work well with the registration process, so you would need to first register at newspapers.com and then use your login/password when you log in through the proxy. AstonishingTunesAdmirer 連絡 18:17, 12 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
I prefer the current system even with the clipping issue to the old system of losing access for long periods of time due to the weirdness of never getting notices it was lost. Ealdgyth (talk) 15:45, 28 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

NewspaperArchive

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When I try to access NewspaperArchive through the Wikipedia Library, I get redirected to the page "http://access-newspaperarchive-c.m.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/Unauthorized", which reads, in part,

If you are seeing this page after clicking a link from your library or institution then there was a problem with the authentication.

Is anyone else having this issue? XabqEfdg (talk) 07:32, 1 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Yes. Red bar says "Authentication failed" and the message is: "If you are seeing this page after clicking a link from your library or institution then there was a problem with the authentication. You can check with your host library or institution to confirm they have an active service. You can also email clientsupport@worldarchives.com to report the library or institution you are attempting to access through." — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 08:11, 1 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Just got the same issue too. Dan Carkner (talk) 02:38, 2 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
It works now. Thanks! XabqEfdg (talk) 02:39, 8 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Mohr Siebeck

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Is Mohr Siebeck access up for others? Books that were definitely available not that long ago don't appear to be available now. SnowFire (talk) 01:23, 8 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

It's still down, so I've filed phab:T367233. SnowFire (talk) 19:37, 11 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

OED

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Apologies if this is old news, but I seem to remember it was discussed here... do we have access or not? Can't remember. Or find it if so! Cheers, ——Serial Number 54129 16:09, 9 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

There is a section on Meta here. Unfortunately, there are no replies yet. XabqEfdg (talk) 20:34, 9 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
No, but it's been suggested - see phab:T347866. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:14, 10 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

SEC_ERROR_OCSP_UNAUTHORIZED_REQUEST error when accessing collection

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When clicking 'access collection' this error occurs, the website doesn't allow one to disable https either. The issue is at the domain https://wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org Traumnovelle (talk) 04:25, 11 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Disabling security.OSCP.enabled in my browser fixes the issue, although I don't believe this is an ideal solution. Traumnovelle (talk) 00:58, 16 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Remind me: Which partner recently left WP:Library's roster?

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Used to list 80 platforms for months; at this writing, we're seeing 79 instead. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 08:29, 11 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Slgrandson: If I remember, UK Who's Who was a partner until about April this year, but no longer (or for what reason, I don't know). ——Serial Number 54129 12:23, 11 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
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Am I the only one having problems with the JSTOR search, getting a blank page with only headers (not an empty list). Викидим (talk) 01:06, 15 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Sorry that's happening to you. JSTOR is working ok for me. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 01:23, 15 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
When that has happened to me, it's fixed by clearing cache. I know that's the most boring answer, but it worked for me. Penny Richards (talk) 01:48, 15 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Bookmarklet

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Hi all! I've been using this on my own computer for almost a year now, but it just occurred to me to share this bookmarklet with fellow TWL users. Create a bookmark in your browser, and change the URL to be the following: javascript:void(location.href="https://wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/login?url="+location.href). Now if you are on the webpage of a journal article, you can click the bookmark, and if the library subscribes to the content, you will be redirected through the library and will receive access to the publication. Please let me know if you have any questions! BhamBoi (talk) 05:03, 17 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

I have been doing the same for some time. This generally, but not always, works. RolandR (talk) 09:31, 17 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for this, BhamBoi! — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 21:32, 17 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Springer access errors

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Getting errors HTTP Status 400 – bad request errors, when trying to access Springer and Nature. Zenomonoz (talk) 07:09, 19 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for reporting this. I am unable to re-produce this issue. Could you clear cookies for oclc.org and try again? I would also suggest opening this page in another browser to see if it works.
If this issue persists, it would be great if you can send us an email with the URL, and a screenshot or a screen recording of the error you're facing. Thanks VSj (WMF) (talk) 11:28, 20 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Exact Editions

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Can we get access to Exact Editions please? TrottieTrue (talk) 22:03, 19 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for the suggestion. Can you please add this to the suggest page here - https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/suggest/. VSj (WMF) (talk) 11:29, 20 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Cannot access Newspapers.com clipping

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My clippings redirect me to "This page is not available. This page is pending publication, has been removed or moved to a new location." SL93 (talk) 22:15, 19 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

I don't know why it's happening all of a sudden, but it's fixed on an individual basis if you remove the "-newspapers-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org" from the url and replace it with ".newspapers.com", which you should be doing anyways if you're using the clipping on Wikipedia, because the former isn't accessible by anyone else without a Newspapers.com account, while the latter url formatting can be seen by everyone. SilverserenC 22:28, 19 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Ok. I have been just changing it to that once I actually get to the adding the links to the article. Thank you. SL93 (talk) 22:29, 19 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
I assume the page is not available issue is some Wikipedia Library account access problem (which we've seemingly been having in various forms for a while based on sections above), considering it goes away by changing the URL. Hopefully someone manages to isolate what's going on. SilverserenC 22:48, 19 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
I just had the same issue creating a clip. It's easily cured, but encountering it for the first time is unpleasant. It seems to be a new bug. Coretheapple (talk) 17:38, 20 June 2024 (UTC)Reply