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Latest comment: 6 days ago by Primefac in topic Mooning the jury
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editMotion 2b says 'all participants in a discussions". Valereee (talk) 15:11, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Fixed, thanks. Primefac (talk) 15:17, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
Mooning the jury
editThis is about Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration#Mooning the jury. BUTT was recently linked in a discussion I had with another editor and I couldn't help but think that maybe we could have a better section name/shortcut than that. It's possible I'm making much ado about nothing but figured I'd at least bring this up to see if others agree. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 10:31, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'm also not saying to get rid of a shortcut that has historically been used but to maybe come up with an alternative one. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 10:37, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- Perhaps an advertised shortcut isn't really necessary? I don't like creating more all-caps jargon, plus honestly this concept applies broadly to all discussions, not just arbitration. Editors shouldn't be trying to garner support from others by showing flagrant disrespect towards them. So Wikipedia:Don't moon the jury would be a better redirection target in any case. (The 33 uses of the shortcut in question is a small enough number that the links could be updated to point directly to the arbitration guide.) isaacl (talk) 16:44, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- I just think that the whole point could be made without invoking graphic imagery (mooning). It's essentially a section about being on your best behaviour and not WP:BOOMERANGing yourself at ArbCom. It's possible I'm overthinking this but seeing the shortcut WP:BUTT directed at someone else really made me think how unprofessional that must look to a newbie, especially in the literal guide to arbitration. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 17:21, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I understood your initial point. I think in addition, no advertised shortcut is needed, and if the current shortcut were to be kept as a redirect, another page would be a better target.
- Your followup explanation sounds like you'd want to modify the actual text, though, to avoid certain imagery. Is that the case? (Maybe something about thumbing your nose at others would convey the same concept.) isaacl (talk) 17:54, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, I was unsure about the usefulness or the target and then that got me thinking about the text itself. So I wanted to bring up both. I'm sorry if I'm being confusing. Let me know if you need me to clarify anything further. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 18:31, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- I have removed the shortcut link, mainly on "professionalism" grounds as discussed. No comment (at this time) on the actual content/wording concerns. Primefac (talk) 13:45, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, I was unsure about the usefulness or the target and then that got me thinking about the text itself. So I wanted to bring up both. I'm sorry if I'm being confusing. Let me know if you need me to clarify anything further. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 18:31, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- I just think that the whole point could be made without invoking graphic imagery (mooning). It's essentially a section about being on your best behaviour and not WP:BOOMERANGing yourself at ArbCom. It's possible I'm overthinking this but seeing the shortcut WP:BUTT directed at someone else really made me think how unprofessional that must look to a newbie, especially in the literal guide to arbitration. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 17:21, 28 September 2024 (UTC)