Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Operation Trident (1971)

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No consensus to promote at this time - Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk) via MilHistBot (talk) 12:30, 22 January 2018 (UTC) « Return to A-Class review list[reply]

Operation Trident (1971)

Nominator(s): Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk)

Operation Trident and the follow-up Operation Python were offensive operations launched by the Indian Navy on Pakistan's port city of Karachi during the Indo-Pakistani War of 1971. Operation Trident saw the first use of anti-ship missiles in combat in the region. The article passed GAN back in January 2017. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 05:01, 16 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Indy beetle

Just a few things up front that are missing:

The India Express article discusses the transmission of the word "Angaar" to Vice Admiral SN Kohli to signify the operations' success, tells of his briefing to the press of what happened, and discusses some misreporting of the attack on Kemari oil tanks.
This source discusses the practicing that the missile boats undertook, and mentions that special air surveillance photographs were used to plan the attack.

-Indy beetle (talk) 06:40, 18 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments:

"The port's airspace was secured by the strike aircraft based at airfields in the area" - strike aircraft are essentially light bombers, and I don't think they would be used in this role. I think the wrong word is being used here.
As Indy beetle notes above, the oil tanks were not attacked by the boats. This would have been impossible, the Styx is not capable of picking out targets on land.
I have problems with the sourcing of this article. Quite a bit comes from a scoopwhoop.com article that appears to be rather poor quality, not even good for a blog post. It does, however, refer to other sources, and I strongly suggest finding these. As it is I have grumbly feelings about using this for an A-class article.

I made a few GR related changes. Maury Markowitz (talk) 16:22, 18 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose As this appears to be a famous event in India and is fairly well known among naval historians worldwide, I'm surprised that the article's sourcing comprises mainly news stories and low quality internet sources - I agree with the comment above that scoopwhoop.com does not appear to be a reliable source. A quick search on Google Books for 'raid on karachi 1971' returns lots of useful-looking references. As such, I don't think that A-class criterion A1 is met. The sourcing also likely means that criterion A2 is not met, as the article is not as comprehensive or accurate as it could be. As the article would require substantial work to meet this criterion I'd suggest that this nomination be withdrawn. Nick-D (talk) 04:31, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Nick-D, Maury Markowitz, and Indy beetle: Thanks for the comments. I'm withdrawing the nomination for now. I'll update the status on talk page, let bot to the rest. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 12:20, 22 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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