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00:24, 25 April 2024 review of submission by Student7y335

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I am curious as to why this has been rejected as it meets the requirements for noteworthiness. The page now has over 21 independent primary references. The fund itself is significantly larger in terms of Assets Under Management than dozens of other funds listed on Wikipedia, many of which have less than 5 references.

Many less notable firms with far fewer references are found here Category:Venture capital firms of the United States

For example: Many pages have not even raised any money, or have raised less than $20 million. Bedrock has $2 billion in assets under management.

Please revisit and consider publishing, or provide more detailed guidance. Should I continue adding references? Student7y335 (talk) 00:24, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Student7y335 Please see other stuff exists. The existence of other articles that themselves could be problematic has no bearing on your draft. As this is a volunteer project where people do what they can when they can, it is possible for inappropriate content to get by us. We can only address what we know about. If you want to use other articles as a model or example, use those that are classified as good articles.
Your sources all describe the routine activities of the company, or are interviews with staff, which does not establish notability. Please see the advice left by reviewers. That the company has a lot of assets is completely irrelevant in terms of notability, unless independent reliable sources discuss the significance of that fact. 331dot (talk) 00:34, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Adding to that....The subject of separate articles needs to meet Wikipedia's WP:Notability requirement which can be confusing. For this case it needs to meet WP:GNG, Wikipedia's sourcing-based General Notability Guideline. So, roughly speaking, to meet that requirement you need to include two independent published sources which cover the topic of your article in depth. So it's not about notability by the common meaning of the term, it's about finding two sources each of which meets all of those criteria. My suggestion is to look for and include those sources. If you are unable to find sources which meet all of those criteria, IMO it's best not to pursue creating a separate article for this subject. Happy editing! North8000 (talk) 00:54, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

can you help me address the issues on this, new to this and was just trying to help Founderofthecity1234 (talk) 20:43, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

00:33, 25 April 2024 review of submission by RygelD

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I was translating an article (for the first time), however, all that I was translating was data from a source that was updated since the original French article was written. Am I supposed to update the original article before doing this one? RygelD (talk) 00:33, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@RygelD: in short, no. There is no obligation on you to update the French article. Nor is there a requirement that the corresponding article in each language version of Wikipedia is equally current, or that they present the exact same information. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:34, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

08:56, 25 April 2024 review of submission by RajiKL

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I am writing the Wiki page for Panjab Radio but it has been rejected. It is a simple edit to state what the organisation is and how it is broadcasting in the UK. It is in a neutral viewpoint and not contradicting the Wiki rules. Where am i going wrong? RajiKL (talk) 08:56, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@RajiKL: it isn't enough to show that this organisation exists, we need to see why it is worthy of inclusion in a global encyclopaedia. We determine that by looking for evidence of notability, which in simple terms means that the subject has been covered in multiple secondary sources that meet the WP:GNG standard. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:01, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

I have edited the page with references and formatting. Please take a look. RajiKL (talk) 09:50, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RajiKL The draft has been rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further.
You declared a conflict of interest, what is the general nature of it? I see that you claim to have personally created the logo of the radio station- be aware that by doing so and uploading it to Commons you have made it available for anyone to use for any purpose with attribution. 331dot (talk) 09:53, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please don't start a new thread with every comment, just add to your earlier one. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:58, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Articles should not just state what the organization does. They should summarize what independent reliable sources choose to say about it and what makes it notable as Wikipedia defines a notable organization. 331dot (talk) 10:03, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

12:20, 25 April 2024 review of submission by Alexhoffman2304

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I would like to know which sources from our reference list are considered unreliable. Alexhoffman2304 (talk) 12:20, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Alexhoffman2304: this draft wasn't declined for unreliable sources, but rather for lack of evidence of notability (which among other things requires sources to be reliable, but there is much more to it than that). None of the sources cited meets the WP:GNG standard required for notability. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:23, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, thank you. I will find better sources to show notability. Alexhoffman2304 (talk) 12:33, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please see your user talk page for important information. 331dot (talk) 12:37, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

13:04, 25 April 2024 review of submission by 174.76.113.10

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i cant see word 174.76.113.10 (talk) 13:04, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure what you are asking here, but the draft has been rejected. 331dot (talk) 13:06, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

13:29, 25 April 2024 review of submission by Arnavgochuswami

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hi Arnavgochuswami (talk) 13:29, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Do you have a question about your draft that was rejected? 331dot (talk) 13:34, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Arnavgochuswami:: No sources, no article, no debate. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v Source assessment notes 16:07, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

15:03, 25 April 2024 review of submission by 143.58.185.214

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Hi there,

My article was deleted with no clear explanation. I was told to provide more references, but upon checking I no longer have access to add the references. Could you please help?

Many thanks, Nicola 143.58.185.214 (talk) 15:03, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Nicola,
Your draft was deleted as it was unambiguous advertising or promotion. Please note that Wikipedia prohibits any kind of promotion. We are an encyclopaedia of notable topics, not a venue to advertise a subject.
You can request your draft to be temporarily undeleted at WP:REFUND if you want to work on it further, but please keep the above rule in mind.
Please read What Wikipedia Is Not before you proceed, though.
Let me know if you have any questions, Qcne (talk) 15:20, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

20:18, 25 April 2024 review of submission by Jeremiah97478

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I am asking for the deleiton of this page, thank you. Jeremiah97478 (talk) 20:18, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done. 331dot (talk) 20:22, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

21:33, 25 April 2024 review of submission by Aazir111

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Cool Aazir111 (talk) 21:33, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Aazir111: that's not a question, and your draft isn't much of a draft. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:40, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

23:00, 25 April 2024 review of submission by Clay2004

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I need to find some good sources. What are some good places to look for non in-universe material? Clay2004 (talk) 23:00, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Clay2004: it seems you're going about this the wrong way. You shouldn't write what you know about a subject, and then try to find sources to back up what you've said. You need to start by first finding a few (3+) sources that meet the WP:GNG criteria, and write your draft by summarising what they've said, citing each source against the information it has provided. This gives you appropriate content and necessary references, along with proof of notability all in one go. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:39, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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