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02:40:14, 7 January 2020 review of draft by Scotisle

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My infobox is below the article and I'm not sure why. It's a draft article, my second, first with templates. https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Draft:YOG%E2%80%9342

Thanks, Scotisle Scotisle (talk) 02:40, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Scotisle: You were missing two formatting characters to close the stack of ship infoboxes. I've fixed it for you. --Worldbruce (talk) 05:29, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

06:40:43, 7 January 2020 review of draft by Rohitmishra01

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This page was initially accepted for the article for creation but after few hours it was declined by quoting " Article is not written in neutral point of view". So you are requested to go through the references I have written everything neutrally. Earlier, this page was deleted due to copy right issue. But I have removed all the copied text and written in my own words. Please help me out.

Rohitmishra01 (talk) 06:40, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Rohitmishra01: - I see you've contacted your reviewer for specifics, which is your best chance. I'll give a couple of more general comments:
1) You can have the content you've written be neutral and even accurate, and still be non-neutral - most normally because of not including sources and content representing other viewpoints/positions, if/when they exist.
2) Your last section (Resignation) is particularly non-neutrally written. It has editorial stress, and your first paragraph of the section reports accusations but you write it up as a stated fact. Your imbalance here makes me view less blatant issues elsewhere with greater concern. Nosebagbear (talk) 15:33, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

09:14:51, 7 January 2020 review of draft by Olgamlazin

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09:14:51, 7 January 2020 review of submission by Olgamlazin dear Wiki Editor--

We need a review of this page just to make sure it is OK. Many thanks,

Olgamlazin (talk) 09:14, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Olgamlazin (talk) 09:14, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Olgamlazin: - hi there, few things:
Who is "we"?
Your draft was blatantly promotional, to the point where the article could legitimately have just been deleted. I've removed the worst, but it would need additional work to be neutral enough for inclusion. Please don't re-add non-neutral/promotional content or you risk being blocked on promotional grounds.
The draft has no sources at all, which is an automatic fail. It needs multiple sources that are suitable, including using inline sources as it's a biographical article (the little blue numbers). Referencing for beginners can help you here.
As an author, your sources need to meet the following requirements: the standard biographical requirements and author notability. Nosebagbear (talk) 15:25, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

15:36:00, 7 January 2020 review of submission by Getty767

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Andrea Venzon has already a page in Wikipedia Italy. He is the founder of Volt Europa, the first pan-European party of the history of the continent to elect someone on Parliament. He has mobilized 60,000 people and Volt has received half a million votes. His page should be published also in Wikipedia in English. Thank you

Getty767 (talk) 15:36, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • This is worth a further look, reviewers. I imagine the reviewers (who made their decisions on a slightly earlier version) probably did so as the sources are very heavily about Volt, with only mentions about Andrea - whereas some in-depth sourcing needs to be about Venzon himself. The Forbes content, by a staff writer, is sufficient to be one sufficient source. There may be enough in one or more of the others to be sufficient. At a minimum, I do not consider it a rejected draft as it both isn't impossible and underwent changes between decline and 2nd review. Nosebagbear (talk) 16:52, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

17:26:14, 7 January 2020 review of submission by 43.250.242.152

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Hi Wiki,

I have requested Wikipedia about the article "Sri Lankan Diaries" to be published, twice. Both the times, the article was rejected due to reference. I have give the facebook and YouTube reference. Those are the references for the page. If everyone asks references and not giving a chance then how can some article be published. So I kindly request you to refer the two references and publish the article soon. Waiting for a positive reply. Thank you.

43.250.242.152 (talk) 17:26, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Neither YouTube or Facebook are reliable sources. Also, I recommend you edit in your native language Wikipedia, not the English language one, as you have a better chance of getting your article approved. Captain Eek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 06:34, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]


17:28:07, 7 January 2020 review of submission by IamRifard

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Hi Wiki,

I have requested Wikipedia about the article "Sri Lankan Diaries" to be published, twice. Both the times, the article was rejected due to reference. I have give the facebook and YouTube reference. Those are the references for the page. If everyone asks references and not giving a chance then how can some article be published. So I kindly request you to refer the two references and publish the article soon. Waiting for a positive reply. Thank you.

IamRifard (talk) 17:28, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi IamRifard. The Facebook and YouTube links you provided are not sources independent of Sri Lankan Diaries. Therefore they do nothing to demonstrate its notability (suitability for inclusion). The draft has been rejected, which is meant to be final, to convey that volunteers do not intend to review it again. --Worldbruce (talk) 04:17, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 18:46:58, 7 January 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Ffedner

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Ffedner (talk) 18:46, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ffedner, You need to use inline citations, see WP:REFB for a useful guide. It also reads far too promotionally. Remove any promotional language. The article should read neutrally. If you have further questions, please open a new question, or leave a note on my talk page. Captain Eek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 06:09, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

19:05:38, 7 January 2020 review of submission by 72.76.126.59

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Good afternoon, I recently started a wiki account with the goal to edit and create wiki pages. However, before starting to write on other pages it was recommended for me to start a user page where I simply introduce myself. However, the page was rejected for lacking notability, despite being just a page meant for an introduction. How do I properly write a userpage?


Thank you

72.76.126.59 (talk) 19:05, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:User pages for general information. User pages should not be submitted to Articles for Creation for review because they are not intended to be encyclopedia articles. --Worldbruce (talk) 04:08, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

19:07:42, 7 January 2020 review of draft by Eldritcharchivist

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A bot keeps erasing all of my pictures I have added to my draft. I found those pictures on Wikipedia, copied the jpg (as they are already uploaded to wiki) and copied the fair use source and listed it as a reference, everything looks great in review and changes, but sooner or later they are gone again. If I download and then upload the same image to either the page or wiki commons it won't allow it saying it is unsure in meets criteria... How do I post pictures of the covers of novels or books to my draft the correct way? I am listing the author, cover artist and publisher, and it should be in fair use, not to mention I found the pictures on wikipedia already so somehow someone else did it. I could take pictures of my own as I own copies of the book titles concerned, but I thought it would be much easier and more official to use the files from already existing wiki pages on the subjects? Any help would be appreciated as I am new to this draft process. Here is an example, this book has a cover image on wikipedia but I am at a loss on how to also use the image on my draft page. https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/File:Dance_of_the_Dead_(D%26D_novel).jpg Eldritcharchivist (talk) 19:07, 7 January 2020 (UTC) Eldritcharchivist (talk) 19:07, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Non-free files are only permitted in articles, not draft articles. Theroadislong (talk) 20:11, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) @Eldritcharchivist: WP:NFCCP#9. A draft is not an article. Fair use only applies to articles. While in draft, you should keep the images commented out. Once in article space, you can uncomment/add them assuming fair use extends to using them in this article. However, WP:NFCCP#8 often means that images should only be used in one article for which it is necessary for understanding. Other tangential articles are not likely to fall under this. For a list article, it is almost never appropriate to have fair use images for individual items, because they fail this criteria. One doesn't need an image to understand that an item belong to a certain grouping. The linked article will have the image. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 20:15, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

22:34:27, 7 January 2020 review of submission by Jennagold2019

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I have made the necessary changes to be more compliant with wiki standards -- making the content more factual and less promotional. Jennagold2019 (talk) 22:34, 7 January 2020 (UTC) Jennagold2019 (talk) 22:34, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No...it's still just blatant advertising! Theroadislong (talk) 22:53, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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