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00:39:57, 13 August 2020 review of submission by Weareantigravity

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I am frustrated because a number of my sources were marked invalid because they're technically "PR." If I just delete those citations entirely can the page get approved? I've added a lot of citations, changed a lot, and am still at a loss here. I have seen many other artists have a page approved with less information, clout, sources, etc. This artist has had a long career and worked with a ton of top artists so I'm just trying to figure out how best to get this published. Everyone's suggestions have been super helpful, I just feel like I'm going in circles a little. Thank you!

Weareantigravity (talk) 00:39, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Weareantigravity, For a living person we have a high standard of referencing. Every substantive fact you assert, especially one that is susceptible to potential challenge, requires a citation with a reference that is about them, and is independent of them, and is in WP:RS, and is significant coverage. Please also see WP:PRIMARY which details the limited permitted usage of primary sources and WP:SELFPUB which has clear limitations on self published sources. Providing sufficient references, ideally one per fact cited, that meet these tough criteria is likely to make this draft a clear acceptance (0.9 probability). Lack of them or an inability to find them is likely to mean that the person is not suitable for inclusion, certainly today. Fiddle Faddle 09:26, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

00:48:47, 13 August 2020 review of draft by Madicspector

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Can you give me specific examples of what reads like an advertisement? Everything that's written comes from a credible source or Kyle himself and is his story in the music industry.

Madicspector (talk) 00:48, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Madicspector, I wasn't the original reviewer of your article but I agree with them that the article is written in an overly promotional tone for an encyclopedia. "Novawave is rated as a top music label company in Las Vegas" is one example. The fact that you say that much of what's written comes from Kyle himself is part of the problem. Wikipedia is not really interested in what people have to say about themselves. Sources which either come from the subject themselves, or are interviews with them are of very limited use as sources. Independent, reliable sources are needed to determine that the subject is notable, and articles should always be written in a neutral, non-promotional tone. Pi (Talk to me!) 00:57, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

01:26:39, 13 August 2020 review of submission by Dr. jeramiah Laden

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i believe this page should be created in loving memory of a fictional character created by the late nicky palmer Dr. jeramiah Laden (talk) 01:26, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This article is a blatant hoax and I have tagged it for speedy deletion Pi (Talk to me!) 02:08, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

06:23:24, 13 August 2020 review of draft by Joocha

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Hello, I have question for my draft: https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Draft:Giga_Agladze

What is matter that this article is declined few times? why? This is not commercial text, every texts have references and this article is about one person. What can i do that accepted this articles?


Joocha (talk) 06:23, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata is not a reliable source. the geocinema Link is a 404. Imdb.com is user-geneerated content and should be removed. plain external links don't belong into the main article body. This submission doesn't indicate how this subject means WP:NACTOR. Victor Schmidt (talk) 07:09, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Question from StrwberryCheeseCake

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Hi! Hope you all are fine. My first draft - (Articles for creation: Sis vs Bro) had got rejected though the host had told me that it was declined. I would like to know the reason it was declined/ rejected. Thank You!StrwberryCheeseCake (talk) 09:19, 13 August 2020 (UTC)StrwberryCheeseCake[reply]

StrwberryCheeseCake, It was rejected because it is a minor youtube channel. If it ever becomes notable it may have an article Fiddle Faddle 09:25, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It was also uncited and therefore did not demonstrate how the topic meets our Notability criteria. You need around three detailed, indepth and independent reliable sources that talk about this youtube channel in some detail. Nick Moyes (talk) 09:33, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

09:34:33, 13 August 2020 review of submission by M 4991

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I need your help to give me pieces of advice regarding the improvement of this article, so that it can get published. Sufficient references are provided. Mustafa Science and Technology Foundation is a non-profit organization that holds several scientific events each year. Its main event is Mustafa Prize, for which there already exists a Wikipedia page. Please help me generate the Mustafa Science and Technology Foundation's Wikipedia page, so that its further events can be included on Wikipedia. Best wishes. M 4991 (talk) 09:34, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

M 4991, I thnk you make a mistake with thr purposes of Wikipedia. You appear by your words here to wish to use us as a vehicle for promotion of your cause. Wikipedia does not promote causes, however worthy.
If the organisation passes WP:CORP then it will be included. It may seem odd to you that the prize has an article but that the organisation does not. This is part of the paradox that is Wikipedia.
We require references from significant coverage about the topic of the article, and independent of it, and in WP:RS please. See WP:42. Please also see WP:PRIMARY which details the limited permitted usage of primary sources and WP:SELFPUB which has clear limitations on self published sources. Providing sufficient references, ideally one per fact referred to, that meet these tough criteria is likely to make this draft a clear acceptance (0.9 probability). Lack of them or an inability to find them is likely to mean that the topic is not suitable for inclusion, certainly today.
Your current references are PR or rehashed press releases. Fiddle Faddle 09:41, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
M 4991, but see Mustafa Science and Technology Foundation Fiddle Faddle 09:42, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

11:54:46, 13 August 2020 review of submission by Aminul Islam a

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Why my article is not approved . If any is lack or shortage inform me I will reform that and will write article again. Aminul Islam a (talk) 11:54, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! The reason why your article isn't approved because either it is not sufficient to be notable otherwise you need to put in a little bit more effort. It's ok. Keep Trying. StrwberryCheeseCake (talk) 12:23, 13 August 2020 (UTC)StrwberryCheeseCake. Also i would like it if you specify your draft. So that people/ viewers can check and you may have a chance of getting approval.[reply]

Hi Aminul Islam a, your article was declined because it is written in the style of an essay rather than an encyclopedia article, and it appears to be a piece of original research/opinion. Wikipedia is not the right place to try and write an article like that. Pi (Talk to me!) 00:05, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

12:31:40, 13 August 2020 review of submission by StrwberryCheeseCake

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I am not actually asking for a re-review but i would like to you to give me some advice as i am obsessed with learning new things. I would want to improve and make sure my next topic is notable to Wikipedia. I am ready to learn new Technics on how to improve my language and explanation to people about a topic. Thanks for sparing some time on this message. Thank You!StrwberryCheeseCake (talk) 12:31, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

StrwberryCheeseCake, as a general advice I would recommend you take a look at WP:GNG so your drafts do not get rejected in the future. Eternal Shadow Talk 16:56, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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13:16:54, 13 August 2020 review of submission by Mehmoodj1

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Mehmoodj1 (talk) 13:16, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This submission lacks any form of reliable independent sources. Note that Wikipedia is primarely interested in what independent people have written about the subject, not what the subject want to say about itself. This submission therefore fails WP:NCORP (assuming this is meant to be about the company). This submission lacks sufficient context for independent reaaders to know what you are talking about. You can see WP:YFA for your next attempt at creating a draft. Victor Schmidt (talk) 13:36, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

15:05:30, 13 August 2020 review of submission by ZaluzianskyaOvata

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I am new to Wikipedia so I woudl value advice on what I need to do. Nick is a well known UK garden designer and appears on Gardener's World regularly - his other colleagues are already on Wikipedia.

Thanks ZaluzianskyaOvata (talk) 15:05, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft Draft:Nick Bailey, Garden Maker has zero independent sources. In order to demonstrate notability, you need to provide multiple references to in-depth articles written about Nick Bailey in unrelated, independent journals, magazines, books or online. If there are no sources then we can’t have an article about him. Theroadislong (talk) 15:09, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I would add that it is entirely possible his colleagues could merit articles and he does not, if no one writes about him. See other stuff exists. 331dot (talk) 15:11, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

18:35:17, 13 August 2020 review of submission by FMecha

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Just saw this rejected, abandoned draft and decided to take some news research on the company's history. While most of pre-raid stuff are related to their NASCAR deals, I managed to get one for their partnership with California State University, so this might worth another look (I also tried to reformat the citations). FMecha (to talk|to see log) 18:35, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

19:50:06, 13 August 2020 review of submission by Mehmoodj1

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Mehmoodj1 (talk) 19:50, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As above, the submission lacks any form of reliable independent sources. Theroadislong (talk) 19:52, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

21:33:57, 13 August 2020 review of submission by Mehmoodj1

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Mehmoodj1 (talk) 21:33, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mehmoodj1, Your edits and repeated removal of speedy deletion tags have started to become disruptive, as have your repeated failure to ask questions here despite posting, and your apparent refusal to engage with editor on you talk page. Fiddle Faddle 21:40, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Mehmoodj1: I second what Timtrent (talk · contribs) has said. I have left you several messages on your talk page, as has Tim, and yet you have ignored them and continued to recreate your drafts after they get deleted. You've already been blocked once for disruption, and if you don't stop and listen to what other people are telling you to do, I imagine that will probably happen again. Nathan2055talk - contribs 21:55, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

23:23:14, 13 August 2020 review of submission by 216.174.74.201

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216.174.74.201 (talk) 23:23, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]


The biography of Dragomir Protić is an authentic biography of a Serbian revolutionary who fought the Ottoman Turks for the liberation of the region. He is an officer who joined the same troop led by Vladimir Kovačević (Chetnik), Stojan Koruba, and others.

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