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Template:Redirect6

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) ~ Rob^Talk 16:09, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Redirect6 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This template is redundant to {{redirect}} and needlessly adds complexity to our hatnote system. Its only purpose is to automatically add an "other uses" item to a redirect hatnote when a certain number of parameters are specified. See the following comparisons with {{redirect}}:

{{redirect6}} buggy:
{{redirect}} → Error: missing redirect parameter (help).

{{redirect6}} →
{{redirect6}} buggy:
{{redirect|1}} →

{{redirect6|1}} →
{{redirect6}} usage either confusing or buggy:
{{redirect|1|2}} →

{{redirect6|1|2}} →
{{redirect6}} appends "other uses" for-see item:
{{redirect|1|2|3}} →

{{redirect|1|2|3|other uses}} →

{{redirect6|1|2|3}} →
Output identical between {{redirect}} and {{redirect6}}:
{{redirect|1|2|3|4}} →

{{redirect6|1|2|3|4}} →
Output identical between {{redirect}} and {{redirect6}}:
{{redirect|1|2|3|4|5}} →

{{redirect6|1|2|3|4|5}} →
{{redirect6}} parameter-support exhausted:
{{redirect|1|2|3|4|5|6}} →

{{redirect6|1|2|3|4|5|6}} →

In short, the only case where it provides any benefit over {{redirect}} is in case 4, when simply adding an extra parameter containing "other uses" replicates its functionality.

This deletion discussion is analogous to a previous one for {{about3}} and {{about4}}, which closed as a SNOW delete; those templates did to {{about}} as {{redirect6}} does to {{redirect}}.

Also analogous is the closing requirements for this TfD: uses of {{redirect6}} will need to be manually merged to use {{redirect}} before {{redirect6}} is deleted. Therefore, I request that the closer simply ping me as part of the close; I have the mop but need consensus before I orphan and delete the template. {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 21:19, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete after converting uses. — JFG ^talk 09:34, 2 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:25, 2 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, the benefit is too small for the added complexity and overhead. Well argued. --Waldir ^talk 14:44, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
delete after replacing. Frietjes (talk) 20:00, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per the nom's well-presented analysis —PC-XT+ 23:35, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Cornish diaspora

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) ~ Rob^Talk 16:05, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Cornish diaspora (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Redundant to {{British diaspora}}. Graham (talk) 17:43, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:25, 2 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete as redundant per WP:CSD#T3. --Rob Sinden (talk) 13:07, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Anglo-Celtic Australian

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) ~ Rob^Talk 15:41, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Anglo-Celtic Australian (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Seems largely redundant to {{European Australian}} and {{Ancestry of Australians}} (and, to a lesser extent, {{British diaspora}}). Graham (talk) 17:32, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:25, 2 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete as redundant per WP:CSD#T3. --Rob Sinden (talk) 13:07, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as redundant per nom. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 20:59, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:European Australian

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) ~ Rob^Talk 15:38, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Template:European Australian (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template is redundant to {{Ancestry of Australians}}. Graham (talk) 17:23, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:26, 2 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete as redundant per WP:CSD#T3. --Rob Sinden (talk) 13:07, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as redundant per nom. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 20:58, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:MusicScore

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) ~ Rob^Talk 15:35, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Template:MusicScore (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This template is far inferior to the <score> input method (see Help:Score), being only able to produce the bare minimum of notation (as the doc page says, "Dotted notes? Slurs? Ties?"). To address issues from the previous discussion: yes, this template would be replaced by the <score> so it looks the same; no, this not "widely used" (13 transclusions, 6 in article space), and <score> is used 449 times. Primefac (talk) 17:06, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep until all transclusions have been replaced with identical or very similar output from <score>...</score>, a decidedly non-trivial task. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 08:10, 2 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – I'd be happy to replace the few uses of this template by <score>...</score> equivalents, however generating a score currently displays this error message:

Image could not be trimmed:
/bin/bash: /usr/local/bin/mediawiki-firejail-convert: No such file or directory
Set $wgScoreTrim=false if this problem persists.}}

Who can fix that? — JFG ^talk 09:33, 2 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I see no issues with either the template or the extension. Cache/scipt/java issues on your end? Primefac (talk) 15:17, 2 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Works now, probably temporary glitch on WP servers… I replaced vocal ranges on the few remaining pages. — JFG ^talk 21:35, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I'm going through trying to demonstrate Michael Bednarek's request to replace with similar output (which is 100% possible), but a thought occurred to me - would it make sense to make {{MusicScore}} a wrapper for the <score> notation? It would remove a lot of the (slightly more) complicated coding, make it look nicer on the article, and still use what is a far superior system. Primefac (talk) 15:29, 2 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
delete, can be easily replaced using the code provided by Primefac above. Frietjes (talk) 19:56, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – All uses in Article namespace have now been replaced. — JFG ^talk 21:35, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

JFG, that's not really how TFD works (it's generally best to get consensus and then replace if necessary). Just something to keep in mind for the future. Primefac (talk) 14:38, 8 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Well, usage was so minimal, I just wanted to help, mostly swapping out 2-note pieces indicating a vocal range. While I was there I wrote some editable music to replace static pngs at Incipit#In music and Habanera (aria). Meanwhile some other editors replaced other uses, and we all learned a new skill. Now if people want to keep using {{MusicScore}}, I won't fight against it.

— JFG ^talk 15:47, 8 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:GBL Ballparks

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 04:40, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Template:GBL Ballparks (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused navbox. 117Avenue (talk) 03:12, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

delete, not a strong connection between articles. better to just navigate through a list article. Frietjes (talk) 22:13, 2 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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