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Template:Cat vgr

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The result of the discussion was delete. SchuminWeb (Talk) 11:58, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Cat vgr (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No articles use this and does not appear to be serving any purpose. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (talk) 22:39, 12 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Left-floating table

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The result of the discussion was delete. SchuminWeb (Talk) 12:40, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Left-floating table (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Used only once, and duplicates functionality provided by {{stack}} and {{stack begin}} with the "float=left" option. Frietjes (talk) 20:59, 12 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Afd-piracy

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The result of the discussion was userfy to User:SarekOfVulcan/Afd-piracy without redirect. SchuminWeb (Talk) 12:01, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Afd-piracy (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

or Userfy does not help in building the encyclopedia and confuses editors.Curb Chain (talk) 18:49, 12 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Just because it doesn't hurt doesn't mean we should keep it. How does this prevent an endless number of useless pages from being created?Curb Chain (talk) 06:06, 13 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
A perfect example of a WP:NOHARM argument.Curb Chain (talk) 06:13, 13 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Documented humor may belong in Wikipedia space if it helps editors improve the project. Our encylopedias are multicultural so this is indeed confusing to people who have never encountered pirate language.Curb Chain (talk) 06:06, 13 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well yeah, but so? Lots of things are confusing to somebody and this can't always be helped. It's marked as humor, so I don't see a problem. If it wasn't funny, that'd be one thing. But it is. Herostratus (talk) 14:40, 13 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Does it improve the project? It may be funny to you, but not to others. And I may make something funny, and you may not get the humor. I see no reason to keep something that is not understandable by all cultures.Curb Chain (talk) 23:01, 13 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It was at one time (which is when I watchlisted it). IIRC, a day or so after International Talk Like a Pirate Day, the transclusions were switched out to the standard template. --Tothwolf (talk) 00:08, 14 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That's reasonable. Hmmm: we can't set up a fake interwiki space at pirate: for these, can we? Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) - talk 09:53, 14 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I think it was transcluded _somewhere_ when I created it, but darned if I remember where at this point.... --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 00:22, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think that is very relevant. Pirate is more confusing than it is not, and I see no reason to allow Wikipedians create a new orthography for the English language.Curb Chain (talk) 00:56, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Curb Chain, its clear that you aren't a new editor, so which account did you edit from prior to 7 April 2011? --Tothwolf (talk) 03:21, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That's got nothing to do with this discussion. — This, that, and the other (talk) 02:03, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, that depends on who he is. When one's first edit contains "wp:nsr" as the edit summary, and then just a few days later, the same editor "finds" AfD and makes a properly formatted "merge" argument [1], it is obvious they aren't a brand new editor. This isn't the type of template one is going to randomly stumble across, and given who created the template, I do question the movtivations behind this rather unhelpful and non-productive TfD nomination. I could probably make some well educated guesses as to who he previously edited as, but I won't as I don't like making such guesses. --Tothwolf (talk) 07:42, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I can't remember where it was transcluded, either. There is no reason why we can't move it to either projectspace or userspace, but if we opt for projectspace, it still might be best tagged with {{humor}} inside <noinclude></noinclude> since some people might not notice the Wikipedia humor category. --Tothwolf (talk) 03:21, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - It's tagged as humor, and lives up to the tag. Additionally, I believe a #switch should be added to {{Afd-privacy}} to use this every year on 19 September. Wikipedia needs to lighten up every now and then. →Στc. 08:04, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Louisville Cardinals football roster

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The result of the discussion was delete. SchuminWeb (Talk) 12:03, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Louisville Cardinals football roster (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

As a single-use template, this template should not exist. I have substituted its content onto 2011 Louisville Cardinals football team. Jweiss11 (talk) 19:55, 12 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:HK railway station

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The result of the discussion was delete. SchuminWeb (Talk) 12:04, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:HK railway station (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Orphaned and unimproved since its creation based on existing template {{MTR Infobox }}. Secondarywaltz (talk) 19:33, 12 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:TA train station

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete. Unused template + creator request equals bye-bye. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 19:37, 13 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:TA train station (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Deprecated, orphaned and replaced by {{TransAdelaide}}. Secondarywaltz (talk) 18:48, 12 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Dis

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The result of the discussion was delete. Existing usages substed. SchuminWeb (Talk) 12:20, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Dis (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

While this could theoretically be used to create skeleton dab pages, it only supports two parameters and does so in a rather clumsy manner. While it could be extended to support more, that could be done just as easily by extending (or rewriting) {{refer}}, which has substantially wider deployment. We have too many low-use ways to do the same thing in disambiguation and it's easier for both editors and readers if we work to reduce that. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) - talk 12:18, 12 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Conflated

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The result of the discussion was delete. While I sense a consensus to delete, I do not, however, see any agreement on what should functionally replace it. So I'm just going to remove the references to it. SchuminWeb (Talk) 12:23, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Conflated (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Two transclusions. A sort of mishmash of {{split}} (where an article discusses two topics) and {{distinguish}} (where a reader may want a similar but different page). We don't really need a standalone cleanup box for this. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) - talk 12:13, 12 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:HIGNFY

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The result of the discussion was delete. SchuminWeb (Talk) 12:26, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:HIGNFY (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Navigates only five articles, which are all easily reachable from the parent page and not obviously interrelated otherwise. Previous TfD was a seriously weak close. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) - talk 11:07, 12 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox concert

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The result of the discussion was keep for now. Chris Cunningham is encouraged to make the two templates compatible with each other for a future merge. SchuminWeb (Talk) 12:30, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox concert (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Poorly-named, less-well featured, and lesser-used alternative to {{Infobox concert tour}}, to which it is redundant, and with which instances should be replaced. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 11:01, 12 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, you know where it is, fix it! Secondarywaltz (talk) 20:03, 13 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You're right, I should do. Here you go. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 20:32, 13 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Chris. It sometimes takes a demo, for people who are not familiar with the functioning of an Infobox, to understand how this will work. I tried to explain it above - but obviously failed. Secondarywaltz (talk) 22:23, 13 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
When that new/modified template comes into existence then my opinion will naturally be for a merge instead. But while they remain two distinct entities, serving distinct purposes, keep is the way to stay in my opinion. Melicans (talk, contributions) 22:35, 13 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
A requirement of deletion would be that the templates be merged anyway in most cases; such a result here certainly wouldn't mean simply deleting all the existing transclusions of {{infobox concert}} and leaving people to re-add new {{infobox concert tour}} boxes. The good work done by Andy and others in taking these to TfD simply highlights them to editors who can quickly get that work carried out, so long as the consensus isn't that the templates really do need to remain distinct. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) - talk 22:53, 13 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
We should keep it. --99.38.236.150 (talk) 11:49, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Cetacean needed

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The result of the discussion was userfy without redirect. Template is now located at User:Scheinwerfermann/Cetacean needed. SchuminWeb (Talk) 12:35, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Cetacean needed (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Two transclusions, one on an archived talk page and one of the userspace of a retired editor. Templatespace isn't the right place for jokes. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) - talk 09:08, 12 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Ana Bebić

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The result of the discussion was delete. SchuminWeb (Talk) 12:37, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Ana Bebić (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Completely frivolous navigation box. (Adding navboxes to articles has apparently become a popular way of Wikipedia:Masking the lack of notability.) --Joy [shallot] (talk) 08:28, 12 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. The template is completely unnecessary: one doesn't need it to connect a total of one TV show and three singles (the rest was apparently added simply to make the template bigger). The subject is notable (makes WP:MUSICBIO), and that's okay, but puffing it up isn't. GregorB (talk) 08:10, 13 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Per nom. Until Ms Bebić releases an album she is barely notable and her three singles could be easily merged into the main article, rendering the template useless. Timbouctou (talk) 17:17, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Infobox Israel Railways station

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The result of the discussion was delete. SchuminWeb (Talk) 12:37, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Israel Railways station (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Orphaned and redundant to {{Infobox station}}. Creator retired in 2007. Secondarywaltz (talk) 04:06, 12 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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