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July 3

US Healthcare System

Hailing from the UK I find this concept hard to understand. If I am a US citizen and I pass out for whatever reason and I am rushed to hospital and receive treatment I will need to pay for this treatment even if I didn’t want it and would rather have died? If I have no private healthcare cover? What if I am homeless and penniless and I show up at an A&E with a missing arm, ripped out…If not fixed I will die, if fixed I will not be able to pay? How does this coincide with the doctors’ Hippocratic oath? Also, I assume most Americans have private healthcare cover as part of their employment package? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.162.76.127 (talk) 08:52, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

How would they know you did not want to be revived? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 10:31, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Perhaps there is a Do not resuscitate order in place. RudolfRed (talk) 18:40, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

There could be. They would have to find it. And as your link notes, there's no guarantee that they can readily put their hands on it. Their first objective will be to try to save the guy. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 19:54, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

After mom died, we found a signed DNR buried in her desk! —Tamfang (talk) 00:10, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

You will be given emergency treatment. Then the hospital will try to bill you, your insurance company and perhaps the government repeatedly for years until they finally write-off the debt. At which point a debt collector will buy the debt for pennies on the dollar and begin hounding you, often offering you a discount ("dimes on the dollar"?). Eventually they collect or give up or you declare bankruptcy or maybe the debt gets bought by a charity like RIP Medical Debt or a comedian sometimes, who simply retire it.[1] Rmhermen (talk) 15:28, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

See also Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act: "Patients treated under EMTALA may not be able to pay or have insurance or other programs pay for the associated costs but are legally responsible for any costs incurred as a result of their care under civil law". Alansplodge (talk) 18:29, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Docetzee's Global Ban

Does anyone know why Dcoetzee first got banned back from English Wikipedia back in October 2014 and then got globally banned by the Wikimedia Foundation the following December? I find these bans a bit sudden considering he had been an admin and contributed so much to both here and Wikimedia Commons just a couple weeks before he got banned and even asked to be desysoped himself. He mentioned that he abused his authority as an admin in the past but I am not sure how this led to him being the third person to get banned by the WMF themselves. StellarHalo (talk) 11:05, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

We should not discuss individual users at the reference desk. Rmhermen (talk) 15:20, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

@Rmhermen: Do you have any suggestion for where I could ask this question instead? StellarHalo (talk) 16:07, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Here User:Dcoetzee it says "Please address any questions to ca(at)wikimedia.org." 2003:F5:6F12:6900:65E6:812D:B982:EFF1 (talk) 17:21, 3 July 2020 (UTC) Marco PB

The WMF Global Ban Policy page says "Please note that questions about specific global bans enforced by the Foundation will not be addressed, to protect the privacy of all involved". So, I very much doubt that they would answer my questions on why Dcoetzee got banned. However, I am asking here in the hope that one or more long-time user or admin on here would know something. StellarHalo (talk) 01:34, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

So your asking that editors here ignore the protection of the privacy of all involved. That is a non-started. MarnetteD|Talk 01:42, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Most popular edition of Wikipedia by country

Hi,

The articles about the Russian Wikipedia, Arabic Wikipedia, English Wikipedia, German Wikipedia, and French Wikipedia (and probably many others) all contain a map such as this one showing the countries where this edition of Wikipedia is the most popular. Those maps are based on this Wikimedia Traffic Analysis Report. I think they're really interesting. However they're not up-to-date: the last Wikimedia Traffic Analysis Report is from September 2018.

I would like to update those maps and the different articles. Do you know where I can find up-to-date data? On Wikimedia Statistics there are "Page views by country" for each edition Wikipedia, but not the most popular edition of Wikipedia by country. So I could download the data for each language and then recreate such a dataset. Is there an easiest way to do that?

Hello, there is no other public data available on that regard so unfortunately there is no a more efficient way to do it.Nurieta (talk) 02:30, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, A455bcd9 (talk) 11:17, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

I've just posted a new feature request on Wikistats there. A455bcd9 (talk) 17:47, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Hampden Park stadium scoreboard

Hi, looking at this luminous scoreboard it can be seen that there was enough space to enter only the teams, and the score with the minutes of play above. The game in question is the 2002 Champions League final between Real Madrid and Bayer Leverkusen in Glasgow. The question is this: three goals were scored; Is it possible that at the moment of the goals, only at that moment did the names of the scorers appear on the scoreboard for a moment? I await your opinions. Thank you. [2] —  Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.41.100.198 (talk) 13:55, 3 July 2020 (UTC)