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October 11

Now, if the Yemen is out of goverment, and broken into 3 pieces, why does the Island of Socotra doesn´t become independent itself?

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I have heard a documentary about Socotra and I decided to visit this Island Unfortunately there is not even one flight to them. I have the opinion that Socotra is richer than Yemen , so I can´t understand, why this island does not quit their dependence to Yemen and start to grow as a new own country. Like Malta or Cape Verde--Hijodetenerife (talk) 05:23, 11 October 2015 (UTC) Benefits of his Independence: You could built Towers near the coasts, put Gun on the Towers and fire to Somalian pirates. (=less of Piracy) This would make this Island to become as safe as Tenerife, Malta or something like this. All the refugees what come from Somalia, Eritrea, Yemen and Oman to Europe could instead of escaping to Europe, now escaping to Socotra. --Hijodetenerife (talk) 05:48, 11 October 2015 (UTC) Our article reports that the main occupations of the Socotrans are fishing, animal husbandry and growing dates. I don't see how that can lead to the island being particularly prosperous. Also it has a very fragile ecosystem, and wouldn't be able to support large numbers of refugees. Rojomoke (talk) 09:39, 11 October 2015 (UTC) okay maybe this island could be than instead home of the pirates like Bahamas and Bermuda 1777? But anyway I am sure this island should be independent if it can regugess recruit or not- At the moment there is no goverment if an arab would come there and became the next dictator of this Island, the Yemen or Saudis wouldn´t even care as long as I let being the Sharia for regular rules, I suppose.-Hijodetenerife (talk) 10:35, 11 October 2015 (UTC) However it's not 1777 now. Somalia was home to pirates for a long time, mostly because it was a large mess that no one really wanted to send ground troops to [1] [2]. While Socotra is not super small and does have a complicated terrain, it's still fairly unlikely it will pose a major challenge to a dedicated US or other modern force if they feel the need to deal with it if it becomes a pirate stronghold. Plus it's likely they could easily get the permission of the recognised Yemen government, so it's not like they really have to worry about anyone major complaining. In other words, trying to be come a pirate haven is a good way to ensure whatever the island is trying to do fails. Nil Einne (talk) 12:43, 15 October 2015 (UTC) This is not the place to debate proposals for becoming the dictator of an island of pirates. Y si quieres jugar en contribuyente, mejor que primero aprendas defenderte en buen Inglés. μηδείς (talk) 17:51, 11 October 2015 (UTC) Maybe not the place for a debate (although there are long debates here if the right subject comes up) But your English, although not perfect, is easily understood and serves well enough for this situation. Sigues adelante y ignoras las gillipollas. Richard Avery (talk) 06:30, 12 October 2015 (UTC) Why haven´t had yet one of this 40.000 citizen in this island the idea to built an own goverment? Yemen is not supporting this Island as much as like the Kingdom Denmark does support and takes care with Faröer or Greenland. There is no benefit for this Island to be Part of the poor Yemen. or is there one? --Hijodetenerife (talk) 07:59, 12 October 2015 (UTC) Unilateral declarations of independence tend to result in wars. Maybe no Socotrans (or at least none with sizable political influence) feel that the costs of a possible war for independence outweigh the possible benefits. It is true that Yemen is experiencing political instability at the moment, and these kinds of things can lead to the breakup of states. But, the regional powers such as Saudi Arabia are taking quite an interest in what is going on, as they don't want the instability to spread, and they don't want possibly hostile governments to emerge nearby. I have the feeling they would not be fans of Socotran independence, especially given its strategic location near the Gulf of Aden. It would provide a good platform for a hostile power to disrupt shipping. --71.119.131.184 (talk) 10:00, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Sounds like Socotra is still pretty peaceful - there are occasional stories about it, minor tourism [3] There's a mention of economic trade with Oman, and as decentralized as the Yemen government (or lack thereof) seems to be, I'm not sure they'd notice much of a difference if they declared independence. :) Wnt (talk) 19:27, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Tomato red

How is tomato red as seen in the bullet of the 1 (New York City Subway service) made with RGB?—Eat me, I'm an azuki (talk · contribs · email) 10:20, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

That SVG file uses #ee352e for the circle colour. -- Finlay McWalterᚠTalk 10:28, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

The official HTML color "tomato" is #FF6347 - quite a bit brighter and less orangy than the color used in the SVG file. SteveBaker (talk) 20:13, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

• Brighter, but I find it quite a bit more orangey. —Tamfang (talk) 05:12, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

I think any non-colorblind New Yorker would instantly see that ff6347 is not the 1 train color. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 01:27, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Statistics

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Am I wrong, or is the Template:AbQ Pie showing bullshit (all pie slices with same size)?--Kopiersperre (talk) 17:50, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

The pie chart template doesn't have the topic= parameter set, so it's showing the default presentation for invalid/empty data. The numbers on the chart match the slice sizes, but they don't match the numbers in the (presumably accurate) table. This question would probably be better on the article talk page. Tevildo (talk) 18:07, 11 October 2015 (UTC)