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Unique normal ultrafilter

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So I'm supposed to know the answer to this, I suppose, but I don't seem to :-)

"Everyone knows" that, in  , Gödel's constructible universe relative to an ultrafilter   on some measurable cardinal  , there is only a single normal ultrafilter, namely   itself. See for example John R. Steel's monograph here, at Theorem 1.7.

So I guess that must mean that the product measure  , meaning you fix some identification between   and   and then say a set has measure 1 if measure 1 many of its vertical sections have measure 1, must not be normal. (Unless it's somehow just equal to   but I don't think it is.)

But is there some direct way to see that? Say, a continuous function   with   such that the set of fixed points of   is not in the ultrafilter no singleton has a preimage under   that's in the ultrafilter? I haven't been able to come up with it. --Trovatore (talk) 06:01, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]