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Isthmus, peninsula or island? (geography question)

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By definition, is this landmass an isthmus, peninsula or island?

See Boomer_Island_(Tasmania) See here for a satellite view: [1]

Cheers, Vitreology talk 01:25, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Peninsula or maybe an island. The name means little, but suggests that it may once have been an island but has since become a peninsula. That's possible, if the isthmus began around a human-improved causeway. It's only an island if it's cut off by the tide, and I can't tell that about the causeway from here. Andy Dingley (talk) 01:39, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Per Andy Dingley, it is hard to tell, and these sorts of landforms are not terribly permanent anyways. As sands shift (either naturally due to wave action, or deliberately as people move the earth around for their own purposes) landforms change; islands can become peninsulas or spits or whatever, and visa-versa. It very well may have been an island when it was named, but it no longer is. It may also be an island at some times of the day, and not at others, depending on the level of the tides. There are lots of possibilities here. In my part of the world, there are several places like this, such as Bodie Island and the Shawmut Peninsula which no longer match their names. If you want to learn more about this, Coastal geography is probably a good place to start your research; there's also lots of other articles that branch off of that to learn even more. --Jayron32 11:44, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Jayron32, I am totally gobsmacked at how good your reply is (below). You deserve a medal. Vitreology talk 03:52, 7 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Someone has just updated the Boomer Island article to describe it as a Tied island. HiLo48 (talk) 04:58, 7 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I am disappointed they did not add anything about kangaroos.—eric 05:40, 7 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The isthmus of Boomer Island

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The isthmus of Boomer Island is an isthmus between the headlands of Boomer Island and the rest of Van Diemen's Land formed by the accretion of windblown sand at some time during the last 2.588 ± 0.005 million years[2]. Parallel to the natural bar runs a man-made[citation needed] causeway which provides access to the island. A channel created by wind and current[dubious – discuss] from Boomer Bay and Blackman's Bay cuts across the isthmus, and is spanned by a bridge on the causeway.

The landform now referred to as Boomer Island was at one time an archipelago consisting of Great Boomer[3] and Little Boomer—The Boomer Islands. The archipelago was named for the Forester kangaroo[4][5] known as a "boomer" [6] to Vandemonians. Though early investigations made before construction of the Denison Canal assumed tide to be the greatest contributor[7] to the hydrodynamics in and around Boomer Bay, wind[8] has wrought the greatest alterations in the landform. The magnitude of change is evidenced by it's decrease in size from 100[9] to 87[10] acres in less than one year. Wikipedia editor JackofOz, an area expert[11] has yet to comment on a mere 35.2077 hectares being considered Great.

An issue of controversy for some[who?] concerning the isthmus and now island is the crown reserve[12] of the original grant within 100 feet of high tide. Possible sources of controversy are the erroneous[13] conversion of the extent to 30 meters and the fact that the isthmus itself may be less than 100 feet wide.

An area expert? Moi? 'Fraid not. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 18:41, 8 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Further Reading

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  • "Maps and Plans". Libraries Tasmania.

See Also

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References

  1. ^ https://goo.gl/maps/w6GhCUYwgc7r6Vmm9
  2. ^ "Land Capability Survey of Tasmania" (PDF).
  3. ^ Great Boomer Island in East Bay "Notice of Public Auction". The Courier. Hobart. 3 March 1852.
  4. ^ Pretyman, Ernest Roy (2011). "Boomer Islands". Pretyman index to Tasmanian place names. State Library of Tasmania.
  5. ^ Thomas Dunbabin's father, also named Thomas Dunbabin (1954). A Farm at World's End. Hobart: Walch. p. 103.
  6. ^ Macropus major - Boomer or Forester Kangaroo "The Fossil Mammalian Remains of Tasmania Compared with those of the Australian Mainland". Victorian Naturalist. 3 (8): 32.
  7. ^ "Letter to the editor of Argus". Shipping Gazette and Sydney General Trade List. 24 September 1855. p. 221.
  8. ^ "Blackman Bay Marine Farming Development Plan" (PDF).
  9. ^ "Comminssioner's Office". Launceston Advertiser. 8 December 1836. p. 4.
  10. ^ "Internal Revenue Office". Launceston Advertiser. 4 May 1837. p. 4.
  11. ^ "JackofOz User Contributions". 3 October 2012.
  12. ^ "Advertising". Colonial Times. Hobart. 12 October 1852. p. 3.
  13. ^ I for one was delighted that the U.S. resisted pressure from the elite intellectual snobs "Metric system go home".

Nepalese cuisine

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I am looking for sources to write about Nepalese cuisine. I found this article which ends before the part I'm interested in, starts. Where might I find the rest? Did it even get published? I don't think I can even use resource request without knowing that. Thanks! Usedtobecool TALK ✨ 14:08, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia has an article on Nepalese cuisine, have you started there and gone through its sources? --Jayron32 14:25, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Jayron32, it's mostly blogs, or doesn't address the subject. I am looking for an in-depth treatment. Found one recipe book that has bits and pieces. This article (linked one) looked like the real deal but it says it's the first part and ends before getting into the actual topic. I am hoping to find the rest of it, if it was published at all. Usedtobecool TALK ✨ 16:08, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I found this book, a narrative description of the cuisine, and this cookbook that has recipes. That first one may be your best bet. It is about 12 years old, but appears to still be available for purchase in a few places, and a library may have a copy or be able to get it on interlibrary loan. Just some more ideas. --Jayron32 16:14, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
There are Google Books previews of the books linked by Jayron above here and here. Alansplodge (talk) 19:18, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Alansplodge and Jayron32:, Thank you for your efforts. I will start there. Usedtobecool TALK ✨ 15:58, 7 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Usedtobecool: to answer your question, yes the article was published (in 2014). The link you provided is to the journal in which it was published, the complete citation is located to the right of the abstract under the heading "How to Cite". Just below that, you should see the issue number (Vol 8-10 (2010)); it is also a link. If you click on that link and then scroll down to almost the last article listed, you will find a link to download the pdf which contains your entire article. Hope this helps.--William Thweatt TalkContribs 19:16, 6 December 2019 (UTC) Nevermind, I misread the question. I shouldn't reply before morning coffee. I was unable to find the second part to that article in any database to which I have access. Good luck.--William Thweatt TalkContribs 19:32, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@WilliamThweatt: I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. I'll look for other sources. Thank you for trying. Usedtobecool TALK ✨ 15:58, 7 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

FIRST EPISTLE OF CLEMENT LETTER TO THE CORINTHIANS

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Dear Helper. I read in Wikipedia in the First Epistle of Clement to the Corinthians the following: "1 Clement also alludes to the first epistle of Paul to the Corinthians; and may allude to Paul's epistles to the Romans, Galatians, Ephesians, and Philippians, numerous phrases from the Epistle to the Hebrews, and possible material from Acts, James, and I Peter."

I am in possession of a book with the title EARLY CHRISTIAN WRITINGS. The First Epistle is published in this book. Clement seems to quote from both the Old Testament and the New Testament but I cannot find the relevant portions he quotes from. Please refer me to somebody who can help me locate these quotes from the Bible.

I do appreciate your assistance.

Regards and have a good day. 105.184.209.48 (talk) 14:48, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I note that the quote you select uses the words may and allude, indicating that 1) there is not wide agreement or certainty (the meaning of the word "may") and 2) that such references are oblique and not themselves direct quotes (the meaning of the word "allude", which means that it refers to something in a less direct way than quoting it). Also, the article itself has a citation for that information, which is to Bruce M. Metzger's, Canon of the New Testament. If you can find that reference, it will probably have more information. --Jayron32 14:59, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Theodore McCarrick's honorary degrees

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The laicised ex-cardinal Theodore Edgar McCarrick had received 35 honorary degrees as of 2013[1] but his Wikipedia article lists only 20. Where and when did he get the other 15? Cheers, gnu57 23:43, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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