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September 15

Five O'Clock World

In your entry on the song Five O'Clock World, you state: "The sound of the other members of the Vogues can be heard repeating the word "hey!"." This is a common mistake. They are actually repeating the word "up!"

This is the reference desk. The place to propose your change is the article talk page.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 07:40, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Sounds to me more like hep or even hip. —Tamfang (talk) 00:53, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Identify melody?

Can someone help identify the melody played at about the time-point 46:56 of the Radiolab episode Dispatches from 1918? Siri and Shazam fail to do so, perhaps because it is not a standard recording. Thanks. 2601:240:8201:C490:BD1D:E3D0:1FF2:8B84 (talk) 00:15, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

It's No. 1 of Erik Satie's Trois Gnossiennes. Deor (talk) 17:55, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, Deor! I knew I had heard the piece and not being able to recall the what-or-where was incredibly annoying :) 2601:240:8201:C490:1D1:45CD:9921:6D91 (talk) 23:28, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

The timestamp is fairly confusing. Is it coming from the iTunes version or something? Or does the site serve different versions in different locations perhaps because of ads? On the online version in the site linked above, the melody that seems to be referred to is at ~44:53 at least for me in NZ. If I download the episode from the above site, it's at 44:59. At least from the identification, I assume this is what's being referred to, right after "Like, it's like bodies as so vulnerable and bodies as so dangerous." since that seems to be where you get no. 1 Trois Gnossiennes. BTW FWIW, SoundHound was able to identify the melody on my third try (used a portion not long before the talking that time). Also if anyone is wondering the song at 47:20 in the download or 47:13 in the online version (just after "Pushed up to, you know, a phonograph") seems to be [1] Lullaby by Ruthie Henshall again as per SoundHound (I used the longish portion without talk at 48:17 in the download, right after "And he allowed that I was right.") and my own listening. (For anyone worried about external copyvios, it seems autogenerated by Youtube is genuine and these are made by Youtube for content they have licences for [2] [3]. Edit: for clarity, a quick didn't reveal any details on on Lullaby by Ruthie Henshall, and I didn't try to look in to it further, so I have no idea if it's an original by her or something else i.e. the version in the podcast could easily be something else. Nil Einne (talk) 18:52, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

movies set in milwaukee, wi

Hello, I just looked under the category of movies set in Milwaukee, WI and movies set in Wisconsin and I didn't see the movie Major League Baseball with Charlie Sheen. I know this movie was set in Milwaukee because they used my uncles loft to film in for one of the scenes and he got a autographed poster from the cast. He lived on Chicago St. In downtown Milwaukee, and owns a large rental of media equipment company called Studio Gear. -- 174.88.168.23

The correct title is Major League.

You are saying that you know it was filmed (or shot) in Milwaukee. This is not the same thing as being set in Milwaukee, which means the action is supposed to be taking place there. In fact the movie was set in Cleveland. If you read the article about the movie, it mentions the difference: "Despite being set in Cleveland, the film was principally shot in Milwaukee because it was cheaper and the producers were unable to work around the schedules of the Cleveland Indians and Cleveland Browns." --174.88.168.23 (talk) 08:46, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Just to clarify in case it is confusing, there are two different terms here: where a movie is set and where a movie is filmed. The setting of a movie is the in-universe location for the movie. The filming location for a movie is the physical location where the cameras were located to make the pictures you see on the screen. They do not have to be the same. For example, in the movie 2001: A Space Odyssey, much of the movie was set on board a space ship travelling to Jupiter. However the movie was filmed in London, England. Similarly, while the movie Major League was filmed in Milwaukee, in terms of the in universe setting, it was set in Cleveland. I hope that distinction makes sense. --Jayron32 15:56, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

• (1) Corrected the title. (2) As a further clarification, when we say "filmed in London", we normally don't include movies filmed in a studio in London, which this one was. We're normally talking about location filming, which means filming in real places (which may or may not be the places where the movie is set), as was done for Major League. --174.88.168.23 (talk) 00:02, 16 September 2020 (UTC), expanded later.

As a follow up to the clarifications posted here please note that the film is in the category Category:Films shot in Wisconsin. There are some cities that get their own category for "Films shot in" but I suspect that there are only a handful of films shot in Milwaukee and that would be a WP:SMALLCAT situation. If I'm wrong about that a new category can always be created. MarnetteD|Talk 16:18, 15 September 2020 (UTC)