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Physical sim vs e-sim

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I have some difficult to find what benefits give the e-sim instead of phisical sim. Is there someone that can kindly list here? Many thanks in advance!!! --2001:B07:6442:8903:F831:B1E7:9894:7B9A (talk) 08:31, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

From [ https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/esim-cards-faq ]:
"Does having an eSIM card improve my data security?
Yes, there are significant security benefits. An eSIM card cannot be stolen without stealing the phone, whereas removable SIM cards are sometimes stolen, and used in port out scams. That's when identity thieves fraudulently swap stolen SIM cards into different phones to gain access to the victim’s calls and text messages. The thieves may then try to reset credentials and gain access to the victim's financial and social media accounts.
For more information about SIM swapping, port out scams, cell phone cloning and subscriber fraud, see our consumer guide on cell phone fraud."
--Guy Macon (talk) 12:53, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
My problem with eSIMs is that if your phone gets broken or you're locked out of it for any reason, you'd have to contact support to have your subscriber data transferred to a new device, unlike on a physical SIM where you simply remove the module out of its slot and slide it into another device. It feels like reverting to that old TDMA/CDMA system where subscriber info is stored on the phone itself. Blake Gripling (talk) 09:46, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Many devices with e-SIMs have micro SD cards that store your data. This makes it easy to migrate the phone book, contact list, stored photos, etc. to a new phone or even to a PC. You still can't just move the sim and your new phone works with the old number like you can with a removable SIM, but that only works if yuor phone goes dead, not if you drop it overboard or it gets stolen, so you need to know how to move the number to a new phone by calling the carrier anyway. --Guy Macon (talk) 22:43, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Blakegripling ph and Guy Macon: you are saying that transfert sim to e-sim give some risks? No real benefits? --2001:B07:6442:8903:1963:A7E1:3427:E4E7 (talk) 07:27, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You appear to have not read my answer to that question. It is the first comment after your question at the top. --Guy Macon (talk) 07:56, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
oh, my error, sorry! --2001:B07:6442:8903:C145:40AD:562F:563C (talk) 08:25, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Guy Macon: Still not as easy to pull off as a phone with a physical SIM tho, especially in developing countries. Blake Gripling (talk) 08:00, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]