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August 20

Request to Edit Article

Hi!

I am one of the administrators of Holy Angels' College (Bulacan), and I would like to seek help in editing the Heading for https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Holy_Angels%27_Academy, it should be named as Holy Angels' College (Bulacan). The school is presently known by this name since it was re-incorporated in 2001.

Thank you

Jeffrey Ian G. Esperanza System Administrator Holy Angels' College (Bulacan) Inc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Esperanzaji (talk • contribs) 01:01, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

@Esperanzaji: There have been major changes to the article in the last few hours made by an anonymous editor. The changes were unsourced and at least partly unencyclopedic and may well be removed or greatly reduced. If this was you, please do not do this. Please read both WP:COI and WP:PAID (this is mandatory) and make the necessary disclosures. Please do not edit the article directly but make edit requests via the article talk page. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Eagleash (talk) 02:52, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Correct a locked article

Articles are locked to “prevent vandalism” yet they are factually incorrect. How can someone request to get these articles corrected? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.121.108.102 (talk) 03:04, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Via edit requests - FlightTime (open channel) 03:09, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) (x2) You can request edits via the article talk page. To do this you use a template which varies depending on the level of protection. Without knowing the name of the page you are asking about, you use one of: Template:Edit extended-protected, Template:Edit template-protected or Template:Edit fully-protected. See those pages for full instructions. It is vital that you provide clear details of the change you wish to see in the form, change 'X' (current content) to 'Y' (your proposed changes) and that you provide sources to corroborate. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 03:19, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Request correction on article titled-“Facism”

Wikipedia article on facism cites “radical right-wing authoritarian....” in the first sentence. However, websters dictionary has the correct definition of facism-“severe social and economic regiment and also forcible suppression of opposition.” The defintion of facism should be exactly as cited in websters dictionary and should not incorrectly label facism as right wing. when those two traits of economic regiment and suppression of opposition are characteristics of the left-wing. It is innacurate and clearly politically biased to label facism “right-wing”. It is exclusively of the left. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.121.108.102 (talk) 03:17, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

This has been extensively discussed in the past. See the article talk page for more information. Eagleash (talk) 03:21, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not Websters. Other dictionaries give more nuanced definitions. Dbfirs 10:19, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

hello

All the articles I have written have been hidden from Google search engines. what is the reason Akram.altameemi (talk) 09:06, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

@Akram.altameemi: Articles are not indexed by search engines for 90 days or until they have been reviewed. You have asked similar questions on previous occasions and it has been pointed out to you that articles you have written do not meet guidelines. Advice has been given to help you reach the standards required but this has not happened. Eagleash (talk) 09:11, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

You have made all the information and resources available in all articles. All the articles appeared on Google and days later disappeared. There was nothing about your belief that there were articles about football players.Akram.altameemi (talk) 09:18, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

You have written at least three articles about football players. The Iraq Premier League is not a fully professional league per Wikipedia's criteria; see WP:FPL. Requests for sources that the players have made appearances in top-tier FIFA-sanctioned internationals have not been answered satisfactorily. The pages therefore may not pass WP:NFOOTY and may be liable to deletion. When an article is tagged at it automatically reviews it. If search engines immediately index it that may not appear later if the pages are subsequently unreviewed if they are not suitable for mainspace. Eagleash (talk) 09:33, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

EditingLockedEdit

I have come across an article that I consider to be biased. I was about to edit it, but editing is locked. I have gone on to the talk: for that article and found others feel the same, but the article has not been edited to be more factual. What to do? TIA — Preceding unsigned comment added by WildLovelyOne (talk • contribs) 10:29, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

@WildLovelyOne: please could you direct us to the article in question? Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 11:00, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

The general answer is in a thread above entitled #Correct a locked article. --Tkynerd (talk) 11:25, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Wikilinking cities

Hi there. I was copyediting an article and I came across a list of cities that were not wikilinked. To link them all might not agree with MOS:SEAOFBLUE, so I was wondering what others thought? Quote in question:’they would then be distributed to cities like Dallas, Houston, Chicago, Tampa, Nashville, Atlanta, Greensboro, and New York City.’ Regards, Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 10:55, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

MOS:OL states that cities generally shouldn’t be linked, but in the context, I think it would be useful for the reader to see the locations of each of the cities. Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 10:58, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

"Generally" means in most situations but not all. If you believe the names are better linked then ignore the guideline and do so. If someone reverts you, then you should discuss why the names should be linked/or remain unlinked.– Ammarpad (talk) 15:13, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Banque du Caire page updates reversal

Dear Wikipedia Team (Yunshui)

My Name id Hesham Daabes, Chief Information Officer (CIO) of Banque du Caire, Cairo, Egypt. The bank's Marketing, Customer Relations and Technology teams are trying to edit/update the current Bank's profile page on Wikipedia with no success. In every update instance, the changes are rejected and reverted back to the original information which is quite outdated and completely irrelevant to the bank. It is unclear to us "Why" this is the case and we have no luck connecting with your support teams to understand the issue. I hereby urge you to consider my request in allowing us changing the Bank's profile on Wikipedia. Please let me know if our attempts are done wrongly by any means and/or provide us with some guidance on how we can achieve this task successfully. The issue is now fairly sensitive to our organisation and critical to our brand image and authenticity of our profile. I am happy to hear back any suggestions.

Appreciate you prompt response to my request.

Best Regards Hesham Daabes Chief Information Officer Banque du Caire HQ Nasr City, Cairo Egypt — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daabesh (talk • contribs) 16:20, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

You are advised to read both WP:COI and WP:PAID. It is strongly encouraged that editors with a conflict of intrest do not edit articles connected to themselves, instead posting edit requests on the article's talk page. This is because wikipedia exists to record what reliable sources say about a topic, which typically conflicts with what a marketing department would say about a topic. ~~ OxonAlex - talk 18:19, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

@Daabesh: I put some brief "welcome" information on your talk page. You made some very common mistakes as a first-time user because you were not familiar with some Wikipedia basics. Please take some time to look this material over, and if you then have questions, come back here. Your edits were reverted because you removed referenced material and the references, and your new material appeared to be promotional in nature. No harme done: new editor are expected to make mistakes. As OxonAlex said, you must also comply with the terms of service of this web site that apply to paid users. Please don't take this the wrong way. If there are errors in the article or new information for the article, we want to know. put suggestion for edits on the article's talk page. It is imperative that you supply references, or your suggested changes cannot be made. -Arch dude (talk) 03:04, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Possible edit-conflict / overwrite?

I was editing the page for the Dresden Files novel Skin Game. https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Skin_Game_(The_Dresden_Files)

When I clicked to Save my edits, I got a notice of an edit-conflict, where someone else had edited while I was editing, warning me to merge the edits; this is deeper into the bowels of wiki-edits than I'm comfortable doing! I wasn't even clear what the other edits are/were.

What I meant to do -- what I tried to do -- was copy my edits off to a local clipboard, Cancel out of editing, then come back in a few minutes and re-do them.

But when I went to look... behold! My edits were in place. Even though I clicked "Cancel." And when I "View History" -- mine was the only entry for days.

I have no idea how to find that other change, or (re-)implement it, or... well, fix it. Or did it automagically fix -- no thanks to me! -- and I'm obsessing about nothing? 2601:645:501:DB74:5438:AB54:3018:9462 (talk) 17:21, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Yes, that kind of edit conflict, where your edits are accepted but you get an edit-conflict message anyway, has become fairly common recently – maybe the last two months. I've never seen a convincing explanation of what causes it, or of how to avoid it. Maproom (talk) 17:37, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

I've had this happen when I've accidentally pressed "save changed" twice, and the server thought I was trying to edit conflict myself. That's the only explanation I've seen. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:31, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Brief about the word

I want to describe the superlative form of attorney which is attornist which means (Attorney in a Professional way) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Attornist (talk • contribs) 21:26, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

@Attornist: That may not be a good fit for Wikipedia, since this is an encyclopedia. Look at the dictionary project instead: [1] RudolfRed (talk) 21:43, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

@Attornist: Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not for things made up one day. -Arch dude (talk) 02:12, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

@Attornist: Not even Wiktionary will accept protologisms unless they have been used in independent sources spanning at least a year. Wiktionary does have Wiktionary:Appendix:List of protologisms where you could add the word if you think it will start to be used in WP:Reliable sources other than your own website and its advertising, but this is definitely not the place to advertise your company. Dbfirs 06:32, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Are redundant links permissible if the first is piped?

It doesn't seem to be covered in the Manual of Style section on redundant links (no offense to whoever wrote it), so please let me know.--Thylacine24 (talk) 22:36, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

@Thylacine24:This is a matter of editorial judgement. If in your opinion the benefit to the typical reader of the extra link outweighs the clutter of overlinking, Then link. Like all other such edits, someone else may disagree and revert, so no harm. -Arch dude (talk) 02:24, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

@Arch dude: This is the page that led me to ask this, which contains two links for "giant panda", the first labeled "Pandah", in the sentence directly before the second. Could you please let me know your opinion on this particular example?--Thylacine24 (talk) 11:53, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

@Thylacine24: I'd get rid of the wikilink in the quote, per MOS:LWQ. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 13:24, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

@Finnusertop: Thanks for telling me; I've removed the link.--Thylacine24 (talk) 18:24, 21 August 2019 (UTC)