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The list was promoted by Hey man im josh via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 11 September 2024 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of cities in Zaporizhzhia Oblast

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List of cities in Zaporizhzhia Oblast (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Nominator(s): Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 00:12, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Another Ukraine oblast city list; this uses a similar format to the one from List of cities in Donetsk Oblast, and its northern counterpart and FL, List of cities in Luhansk Oblast, and is also an oblast of which the majority of its territory (and cities) is occupied by Russian troops. Much of the formatting and prose was honed in Dantheanimator's FLC entry Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of cities in Donetsk Oblast/archive1, and thus should be mostly fine already. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 00:12, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Suggestions

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As stated in the nom, a lot of the content is derived from the already promoted FL List of cities in Luhansk Oblast and the currently open FL List of cities in Donetsk Oblast so a lot of the material in this list has gone through considerable oversight/editing. I also went ahead with the support of Flemmish Nietzsche and fixed/improved everything I noticed in the article (mostly just minor things like ce and expanding refs). That said, here's the only thing I could think of to suggest adding:

  • When viewing the list from desktop, at least from my laptop device, it looks like there's enough space for one additional image next to the table. I think this is completely optional but I feel like it would be a great addition to include this image of Enerhodar with a caption along the lines of "Enerhodar, fourth most populous city and site of the largest nuclear power plant in Europe, the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant"

Having thoroughly reviewed the page and having a deep familiarity with the quality of the content, I support promoting this to FL! Thanks Flemmish Nietzsche for your work on this list!! :) Dan the Animator 20:54, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Image added. I also made a minor change to one of your edits, as the two captured cities specifically mentioned, Meltitopol and Berdiansk, are not in Polohy Raion, (the last mentioned raion where Russia has captured cities) but as the "including" refers to all prior mentioned occupied raions, are actually in the eponymous Melitopol and Berdiansk raions. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 23:55, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Flemmish Nietzsche! About the wording for that sentence, how does this sound?
  • After 24 February 2022, during Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine, Russian forces occupied three cities in Polohy Raion, and all cities located in the Berdiansk, Melitopol, and Vasylivka raions. In the oblast's occupied territory, de facto Russian officials use the same five raions as Ukraine, while Melitopol (the oblast's most populous city controlled by Russia) serves as the capital for the Russian administration.
I don't think its necessary to explicitly state that Melitopol and Berdiansk are occupied by Russia since that's already indicated by the previous sentence (e.g. "all cities located in Berdiansk, Melitopol" includes Berdiansk & Melitopol). Also don't think it's necessary either to say in the lead that they're the third and second most populous cities considering the table already shows this clearly.
For the reasons mentioned on my last reply on the article talkpage, its useful to state that Russian officials use the same subdivisions so I added in that part. I haven't done the most thorough source search but I think this source (taken from ref #56 under the Administrative divisions subsection in Russian occupation of Zaporizhzhia Oblast) should be sufficient to verify/support the claim about Russia using the same five raions. Let me know what you think about the above and please ping me on reply for anything! Cheers, Dan the Animator 03:10, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Flemmish Nietzsche added in the above edit here since this' been here a while but feel free to let me know if it should be changed at all. Dan the Animator 20:27, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's fine, thanks. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 18:02, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support from Averageuntitleduser

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I can't find anything else! The prose reads very clearly. I had a look at the images and found no reason to doubt the own work liscenses. However, in the alt texts of the cities, try not to repeat the captions. Instead, lean just slightly more into broadly describing the image. My go at the first: "Arterial road at night between mid-rise buildings, street lights, and trees". Averageuntitleduser (talk) 17:52, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Thanks for the suggestions. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 18:16, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good! Happy to support. Averageuntitleduser (talk) 18:29, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Source review
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Returning for a source review as per a suggestion on WP:DISCORD pertaining to the WP:DCWC. All sources appear reliable for what they site, and nicely done with the title translations. Checked sources 6, 7, 8, 16, and 17, and they all pass; I suppose "the oblast's most populous city controlled by Russia" is quite an obvious statement. Formatting suggestions below, looking at this revision.

  • Suggest cutting the author parameters in sources 2 and 9 and instead making them the website paramaters.
  • Change the website parameter in source 3 to Ukraina Moloda.
  • Change the website parameter in source 4 to All About Accounting.
  • Add language parameters to sources 5 and 15.

No further issues. Averageuntitleduser (talk) 03:29, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All done. The author parameters were changed to |publisher so as to not create a duplicate with the existing |website parameter in the cite templates. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 03:42, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nice. Support on sources. Averageuntitleduser (talk) 04:06, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Alavense

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  • Neither the first caption nor the two notes need a full stop, given that they are not full sentences.
  • 10 cities are occupied by Russian forces, while two - As per MOS:NUMNOTES: "Comparable values nearby one another should be all spelled out or all in figures, even if one of the numbers would normally be written differently". I'd go with ten cities are occupied.

That's what I saw, Flemmish Nietzsche. I've got a couple of nominations going on, in case you have time and fancy having a look at them. Kind regards, Alavense (talk) 08:06, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Alavense Both suggestions implemented. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 03:41, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Nice work. Kind regards, Alavense (talk) 06:37, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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