Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Major League Baseball pitchers who have struck out three batters on nine pitches/archive1
- The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The list was promoted by Giants2008 10:01, 27 May 2013 (UTC) [1].[reply]
List of Major League Baseball pitchers who have struck out three batters on nine pitches (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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- Nominator(s): Bloom6132 (talk) 21:31, 27 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I am nominating this for featured list because I feel it has been improved significantly over these past few weeks and now meets all 6 FL criteria. —Bloom6132 (talk) 21:31, 27 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
[Please note that the 3 rows that have no refs are already sourced at the bottom in the "General" references. The other columns all have individual sources due to the availability of play-by-play boxscores and/or the need to source Hall of Fame membership.]
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- Images look fine. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:27, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Support on prose and images. Looks good to me. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:24, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know much about baseball. But the prose and the table look good. The only thing I noticed is that three entries in the table are missing refs.—Chris!c/t 18:41, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- The entire table is sourced from the "General" subsection of the "References" section at the very bottom. I only added a specific ref if Baseball Reference provided a box score. —Bloom6132 (talk) 18:49, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- What about having a column for the box score. It would be interesting to see which team actually won. I think Baseball Reference is not the only baseball database out there. Maybe others can provide that info.—Chris!c/t 18:56, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Neither Baseball Almanac (the general ref), Baseball Reference nor Retrosheet provide the box score of the games before 1916. And c. 1920s box scores only have the games' final score but do not have the play-by-play description that references the actual immaculate inning as having taken place. Both are needed in order to reference the event. —Bloom6132 (talk) 19:07, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- What about having a column for the box score. It would be interesting to see which team actually won. I think Baseball Reference is not the only baseball database out there. Maybe others can provide that info.—Chris!c/t 18:56, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from —Bagumba (talk) 21:56, 16 May 2013 (UTC)[reply] |
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Comment – Remove last "the" from "becoming the only player to achieve the feat in both leagues of the MLB."?Giants2008 (Talk) 16:14, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. —Bloom6132 (talk) 18:04, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Support One nitpick: Wade Miley is linked twice in the lead (in the second paragraph). Regards.--Tomcat (7) 16:15, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Fixed. Thank you for pointing that out. —Bloom6132 (talk) 20:57, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Support. Per the request at WT:MLB, I used my "expert" eyes and checked the prose. Looks fine, although perhaps the Hall of Fame aspect is emphasized a little too much. Then again, perhaps it is not. AutomaticStrikeout ? 20:57, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: shouldn't the title of the article be "List of Major League Baseball pitchers who have struck out three batters on nine pitches in a single inning"? Lots of pitchers have struck out 3 batters (non-specific on when - 2 batters in one inning, 1 batter in the next inning) on 9 pitches, but only a few have done that feat in a single inning. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk • contributions) 19:12, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Per WP:LISTNAME, the name of a list "is not expected to contain a complete description of the list's subject." This saves from overly long titles (and the current one is already long as it is). The inclusion criteria can be further detailed in the article. A shorter title might be "List of Major League Baseball pitchers who pitched an immaculate inning", but do many people know what an immaculate inning is?—Bagumba (talk) 19:44, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- The article states that the feat is "commonly known as an immaculate inning". Rejectwater (talk) 12:47, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Per WP:LISTNAME, the name of a list "is not expected to contain a complete description of the list's subject." This saves from overly long titles (and the current one is already long as it is). The inclusion criteria can be further detailed in the article. A shorter title might be "List of Major League Baseball pitchers who pitched an immaculate inning", but do many people know what an immaculate inning is?—Bagumba (talk) 19:44, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 16:58, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply] |
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Comments award for longest list name in Wikipedia goes to.... (I think this just pips this FL I wrote a while back!)
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More resolved comments from —Bagumba (talk) 04:21, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply] |
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*I noticed the recent changes to address The Rambling Man's above concern about references for active players. I guess it was an unforseen consequence of moving to a single ref for Hall of Fame members, as opposed to individual refs for each player. Still, if we need a ref that a player is active, it seems a ref would then also be needed to verify that the remaining players are not active. Also, I don't see why we are averse to a dedicated column for boxscore links, as opposed to the current co-mingling "Box & Ref"—which makes an extra step for the reader to find the link they are interested in.—Bagumba (talk) 18:58, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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