Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Formula One circuits/archive1

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The list was promoted by The Rambling Man 17:35, 1 August 2012 [1].

List of Formula One circuits

Featured list candidates/List of Formula One circuits/archive1

Nominator(s): NapHit (talk) 21:45, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe the list meets the criteria necessary for it to become featured. NapHit (talk) 21:45, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments
- "held usually" - shouldn't that be "usually held"?
- "The first race at the circuit used the 22 km (14 mi) circuit," - would remove the repetition of "circuit". I am also confused what you really mean. Is it about the Nürbugring or Silverstone? Which circuit you are referring to?
- Too many repetitions of the same word in the next sentences.
- "New circuits have been used in Asia and America, the change has been a recent occurrence." - shouldn't that be replaced with a semicolon? At least it is so in English.
- "The Circuit of the Americas is set to become the latest different circuit to host a Grand Prix; when" - you can not place a semicolon ahead a non-complete sentence, can you?
- "The longest circuit to have hosted a Grand Prix is the Pescara Circuit, which hosted the 1957 Pescara Grand Prix. " - How about "The Pescara Circuit have hosted the longest circuit, the 1957 Pescara Grand Prix"?--GoP _T ^C _N 11:08, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Overall nice.--GoP _T ^C _N 14:05, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

done all apart from the last one which would make the sentence dramatically incorrect, thanks for the comments. NapHit (talk) 21:26, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Great, thanks. Supporting now :)--GoP _T ^C _N 11:22, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Arsenikk ^(talk) 22:25, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

;Comments by Arsenikk ^(talk)

"has been a recent occurrence" is rather vague, could you at least specify a decade.

The next sentence states that half of the races on the calendar were not on it before 1999, so I think that suffices. NapHit (talk) 22:17, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"most recent different circuit" reads rather awkward and at first I didn't even understand what was meant.

reworded sentence. NapHit (talk) 22:17, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Similarly the term "latest different circuit".

changed to newest. NapHit (talk) 22:17, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The text mentions "street" and "race", but what does "road" refer to? Is there a difference between "race" and "race circuit"?

road refers to circuits that are held on public roads and sometimes a mixture of public roads and permanent track facilities as far as I'm aware. No there is no difference between race and race circuit, that's me not being thorough as they should have just race, road or street in that column. NapHit (talk) 22:17, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Several of the "current season" marked circuits have 2011 as the last year.

this is because they haven't hosted a race in 2012 yet, I can change to 2012 if you like as barring unforeseen circumstances they will host a race. NapHit (talk) 22:17, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, makes sense. Either way would work, I guess. Arsenikk ^(talk) 20:40, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am a little confused regarding the referencing. The ESPN link only contains the current circuits and the book only contains up to 2002. How is information on other circuits referenced and how are years post-2002 references. As it is a book, should it not be referenced using page numbers.

The ESPN link contains all the circuits. If you type the name of a circuit into the search box it brings up the circuit. Not sure about the page numbers, I'll add them anyway to be on the safe side. NapHit (talk) 22:17, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If the information needs manually searching to be found (I tried out the ESPN search and it is a rather long process) then it would be better to link directly to the relevant subpage on ESPN for each entry, given that it provides a unique URL (which seems to be the case here). That is the way I always reference things at least, even if it does produce a bit of paperwork. Arsenikk ^(talk) 20:40, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree, its not a long process, typing the name of the circuit and bringing it up takes about 30 seconds. I'm not keen on linking directly to all the pages when the overview page is there which provides the gateway to all the circuits. As a compromise I could add a note saying to find circuits no longer in use type them into the search bar? NapHit (talk) 20:51, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It was a somewhat cumbersome affair getting at the information. I'll wait and see what other reviewers say on the matter, but my primary stance is that there should be direct references to the information. Arsenikk ^(talk) 22:03, 16 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I used to be a bit retentive about this sort of thing, but I'm more inclined now to accept that most of our readers who would be fussed about going hunting for a reference would be capable of using a search box on an external website. I think this is just fine as long as adequate instruction is provided to the reader on how to do this. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:19, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Otherwise an impressive list. Arsenikk ^(talk) 17:00, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support Arsenikk ^(talk) 22:25, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments –

"The 25,800 km long circuit in Pescara, Italy, held the annual Coppa Acerbo race, in 1957...". Comma should be a semi-colon.
- I meant the last comma in this bit, not the second one. My fault for not being aware of how many commas there were. Basically, the comma after Italy should be restored and the one after "race" is the one that should be changed. Sorry about that. Giants2008 (Talk) 00:04, 26 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No worries, should be right now. NapHit (talk) 09:40, 26 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

~~In the circuit column, Osterreichring isn't sorting in the proper order.~~
~~In ref 5, "Formula1" needs a space for consistency with other refs.~~ Giants2008 (Talk) 15:19, 19 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the comments Giants, I've fixed them all. NapHit (talk) 16:25, 19 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support – per above discussion and comments. Overall, a very impressive list. Good work! —Bloom6132 (talk) 10:43, 21 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 19:09, 22 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments participated in the PR, so not much to add.

" 22 km (14 mi)" vs "25.800 km (16.031 mi)" - not keen on the super-high accuracy second time round. Would prefer some level of consistency in presentation.

brought it in line with the other lengths in the article. NapHit (talk) 19:01, 22 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Therefore street is a circuit held on closed city streets, Road refers to a mixture of public roads and a permanent track and Race.... " do you mean "Street"?

I did, fixed. NapHit (talk) 19:01, 22 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Do we know for fact any of the 2013 circuits?

Not for certain the FIA is going to release a provisional list at the end of this month I think, so should be a little clearer then. But when the circuit was announced it was said it would hold a race in 2013. That is subject to a lot of factors obviously, but I think the section reflects that. NapHit (talk) 19:01, 22 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Retrieved 17 June 2012.To find circuits" could use a space after the date.

done NapHit (talk) 19:01, 22 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man (talk) 14:14, 22 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the comments TRM, I've addressed them all. NapHit (talk) 19:01, 22 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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